Re: [Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As far as I am aware, the CC-by-sa comes in many flavours. One for each country and all of them are different in their own way. Specific country specific implementations may exactly allow for things people are not aware off. Yes the INTENTION is for them to be the same. As to why things go

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-07 Thread Jeevan Jose
As far as I am aware, the CC-by-sa comes in many flavours. One for each country and all of them are different in their own way. Specific country specific implementations may exactly allow for things people are not aware off. True up to version 3.0; but it seems they stopped it for version 4.0 and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The CC does NOT say that the license of a low resolution image allows for the use of a high resolution image. This is because it depends on the law of the land. Some countries consider them to be the same where other do not. Thanks, GerardM On 5 June 2014 07:59, Jeevan Jose

[Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-05 Thread Jeevan Jose
In many recent discussions in Wikimedia Commons, I noticed that many of our media contributors are not well aware of the terms of licenses they grant. Main confusions are in three areas: 1. Attribution: Many people think we can demand attribution near the work used in off wiki cases. But according

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jeevan Jose, 05/06/2014 07:59: So do we have a responsibility to educate the contributors than misusing their ignorance in such cases? The three points you raise are legally untested in most countries and even CC's FAQ is not legal advice. For us, point 1 is covered by ToU, but for 2 and 3

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-05 Thread Jeevan Jose
For us, point 1 is covered by ToU - Nemo But my understanding is Tou (7 g) is only applicable for Wikimedian who contribute their own works. We have so many third party uploads and they all must meet exact license terms. Regards, Jee On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-05 Thread Jeevan Jose
See. I upload a freely licensed photo from Flickr to Commons and another user added it to a Wikipedia article. A court concluded that mere linking to file description page in commons.wikimeda.org is not enough for attribution. Who is responsible for this infringement? Me, the user who added it, or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-05 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jeevan Jose, 05/06/2014 14:04: So uploading third party images to Commons is a risky business? IANAL, but: not under DMCA unless a zealous attorney uses the new ToU to file criminal charges against you under CFAA. If someone can prove their copyright is not respected they'll get the content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Importance of educating the media contributors

2014-06-05 Thread Jeevan Jose
If someone can prove their copyright is not respected they'll get the content deleted, end of story. Good; but shouldn't be this an eye opening for WMF to approach copyright matters seriously. Or we can amend the Commons:PCP: #6. If someone can prove their copyright is not respected they'll get