[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-05-06 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Jonathan, Great post! Thank you for introducing a fresh and compelling perspective into the conversation, though I would suggest that this needs adjusting to take into account that Wikimedians' circumstances are vastly different depnding on where they live – a point I will return to below.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-05-05 Thread jehochman
Hello Andreas, By way of disclosure I am a researcher at the Yale Applied Cryptography Laboratory and I have been studying the tension between the right to privacy and the need for legal accountability when content is posted online. My working theory is that we need to avoid creating lawless

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-05-03 Thread Mike Peel
Hello Andreas, A key part of the Enforcement Guidelines is the formation of a global committee called the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C). The process of building the U4C is just starting with the formation of the U4C Building Committee. More information about this is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-05-03 Thread Gnangarra
> > *unless you have a very good reason to do so, and their real-life identity > is of direct relevance to the issue you are reporting on* This such a vague statement, every time someone is named it can be said to be relevant, identifying a person enhances their comment or diminishes their

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-05-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Lodewijk, Thanks. You hit the nail on the head in your last paragraph where you say, "I'm however not particularly surprised that this issue eventually arises, as this was bound to happen. I am also curious for what the intended policy implications would be (based on the current UCoC) and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-05-02 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Andreas, interesting questions. I don't think your assumption "As you are no doubt aware, a Wikimedian and a non-Wikimedian co-author recently published..." is true. I was definitely not aware of it, and I doubt many others are either. I was able to piece together some of your claims, but not

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-05-02 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Dear Brock and all, You mention academic standards. In academic contexts it is perfectly normal to level personal critiques at opposing scholars. And naming the institutions where scholars with opposing viewpoints teach is arguably essential, as well as a matter of professional courtesy. But the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-04-24 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Correction: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ In my earlier email I said: *"In this specific case, one of the two contributors once, over a decade ago, posted a link to a Dramatica page containing their name and a previous place of employment (different from their current place of employment as shared in the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-04-24 Thread brock . weller
In fact, just to expand on this, in order for it to be harrassment of defamation or what have you, it first has to NOT be appropriate academic research. I think we can all agree that mainstream academic works are, even when highly critical is not defamatory or harrassment. The position that the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Local enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct

2023-04-24 Thread brock . weller
I would be extremely surprised if we substituted our judgement on what is appropriate academic research for the judgement of the editors of a well respected peer-reviewed journal in its field. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list --