[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-20 Thread Peter Southwood
This would be more convincing if our house was in order. It is not. Cheers, Peter From: Nathan [mailto:nawr...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 August 2023 12:24 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-20 Thread Peter Southwood
To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees I'm very interested to see this develop further, and can understand some of the tensions that Steven has articulated. It's tricky to experience that we can't fund

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-19 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Dear all, There is something that had slipped my mind ... Victoria Doronina said in November last year, on-wiki: "Equity Grants were an idea of the previous CEO who is no longer with the Foundation so

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-18 Thread Steven Walling
Biyanto, Thanks for your reply on this, very much appreciate the context and more information. On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 3:41 AM Biyanto wrote: > From the beginning, the Knowledge Equity Fund was designed as an > experiment: a pilot fund to improve the pool of knowledge resources on >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-18 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I confess I am feeling a little conflicted. For example, I find it hard to begrudge kids in Dominica the chance to develop some digital skills. If the money were used effectively to that end, I would be very happy to see that. The US and UK projects I'm struggling more with. You are telling users

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-18 Thread The Cunctator
This is all extremely helpful information. I am grateful for the with you have done and I think this is an excellent project. On Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 6:41 AM Biyanto wrote: > Hi all, > > My name is Biyanto Rebin, and I am one of the community members who is > part of the Knowledge Equity Fund

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-18 Thread Biyanto
Hi all, My name is Biyanto Rebin, and I am one of the community members who is part of the Knowledge Equity Fund Committee. I joined the Equity Fund Committee last year because I believe that our movement needs support from other groups and organizations who are working on free knowledge to make

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-18 Thread Nathan
Steven, I've been thinking about your points here and I wonder if it's worth zooming out a little bit on what Wikimedia is trying to achieve. The classic slogan of making the sum of all human knowledge accessible to all is an incredibly broad and ambitious goal. Since the WMF was founded, the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-18 Thread Samuel Klein
++. Anything we can learn + apply from Outreachy (and their own community of mentors, alums, and practitioners!) would be wonderful. Their impact per unit of funding seems, at very casual inspection, well ahead of all comparable initiatives. And we could even fund them directly, who have often

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 10:23 PM Steven Walling wrote: > With the money allocated to Knowledge Equity in the last couple years, we > could have hired > at least a couple more software engineers to do work like fulfill community > wishlist requests. I disagree with that framing. Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 8:44 PM effe iets anders wrote: > I'm very interested to see this develop further, and can understand some > of the tensions that Steven has articulated. It's tricky to experience that > we can't fund everything we want to do that has direct impact on our own > work, and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello Nadee and all, thanks for this update. I appreciate the trend towards supporting Wikimedia fellows with this program -- who could help their host organizations learn how to make their work compatible with free knowledge projects. They could also bridge our current wikimedia communities +

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread effe iets anders
I'm very interested to see this develop further, and can understand some of the tensions that Steven has articulated. It's tricky to experience that we can't fund everything we want to do that has direct impact on our own work, and yet fund projects that don't feel like they directly support other

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Christophe Henner
That would be a great discussion indeed to set the line.But it?s the different from what you started the discussion with where you were saying ?we all should want?.I want us to make things that move the needle regarding knowledge equity and that probably require outside of the projects programs.As

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Steven Walling
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:34 AM Christophe Henner < christophe.hen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Steven, > > If I may, I have a different reading on the topic. Knowledge Equity is a > topic because for centuries knowledges have been destroyed, banned, etc? as > such, and with our current rules with

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Christophe Henner
Hi Steven,If I may, I have a different reading on the topic. Knowledge Equity is a topic because for centuries knowledges have been destroyed, banned, etc? as such, and with our current rules with written sources, funding any organisation empowering marginalised communities is critical.If we were

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

2023-08-16 Thread Steven Walling
This is really really disappointing to see. The lessons noted in the blog post totally miss the point as to why the Wikimedia community has objected to Knowledge Equity Fund. The issue is not community oversight via committees or visibility into the work. It’s that the work had no demonstrable