Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation

2015-04-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
That would be Kim Gilbey, who has been guiding us through the consultation and the development of the strategic priorities. We had a meeting about it this morning, in fact. Further information is coming soon, I hope. pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation

2015-04-29 Thread Anthony Cole
Excellent. Thank's Philippe. On Thursday, April 30, 2015, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: That would be Kim Gilbey, who has been guiding us through the consultation and the development of the strategic priorities. We had a meeting about it this morning, in fact. Further

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-19 Thread Andrew Gray
Do we have an idea of the time commitment needed - X months of full-time work? (Potentially more now than it took first time around). Might be something which would justify an IEG grant, or a similar small grant from an external body... Andrew. On 18 March 2015 at 16:38, David Gerard

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 15-03-18 03:09 AM, Mathias Damour wrote: [from the Convention on the Rights of the Child] [...] this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds Interestingly enough, to me this reads /against/ the idea of a Wikipedia for Kids insofar as the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread
On 18 March 2015 at 12:59, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: For instance, would a Russian Kids' Wikipedia carefully avoid promotion of homosexuality as their law now demands (to pick one salient example amongst thousands). Yes it would. Though this has been bounced about as a project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2015 at 14:02, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: But TLDR - a Wikpedia *adapted* for children is a good idea. http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. We should give this project more love and assistance, it's basically the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I'd be the most vocal opponent of an encyclopedia *censored* for children. But I would be a very vocal proponent of an encyclopedia *adapted* for children. Not by dumbing it down and not by removing information that some cultures, religions or governments consider immoral or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2015 at 16:07, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: Indeed. http://schools-wikipedia.org is already used around the world - it's a great example of what can be done if Wikimedians work with (even passively with) other orgs. Everyone likes it, not many are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 13:59, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : On 15-03-18 03:09 AM, Mathias Damour wrote: [from the Convention on the Rights of the Child] [...] this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds Interestingly enough, to me this reads /against/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 02:32, Samuel Klein a écrit : Thanks for summarizing this, Mathias. I love the work that has been done so far on Wikikids, and think WMF should think about creative ways to make such projects successful. Gathering knowledge for all audiences requires simpler language than most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 20:41, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : On 15-03-18 02:19 PM, Mathias Damour wrote: [...] the content must be appropriate for children [...] The problem is exactly that. What is or is not appropriate for children is an inherently *political* question, the answer to which is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 16:23, David Gerard a écrit : http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. We should give this project more love and assistance, it's basically the refutation of all attempts to, er, filter the base product. Teachers love it, what about children? Le

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 15:02, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit : Both were printed in Russian in the Soviet Union, so they also had, um, ideological adaptations, which I was smart enough to spot (yay for me), but the reason I loved it is that it had large illustrations, clear and large font and engaging language.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
I'm not dismissing other approaches! I'm noting one approach that did work :-) On 18 March 2015 at 20:02, Mathias Damour mathias.dam...@laposte.net wrote: Le 18/03/2015 16:23, David Gerard a écrit : http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. We should give this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the Wikipedia for children idea

2015-03-17 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks for summarizing this, Mathias. I love the work that has been done so far on Wikikids, and think WMF should think about creative ways to make such projects successful. Gathering knowledge for all audiences requires simpler language than most wikipedias have; and building a culture of