Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a "group", and "COI" to an edit

[rupert THURNER]

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Steven Walling wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, rupert THURNER  >wrote:
>
> > could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
> > 1. it should knows "groups"
> > 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile
> > 3. allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
> > 4. add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of
> > interest"
> > 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in
> history
> > views
> > 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in
> > history views
> > 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
> > page,
> >or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
> >
>
> [With my WMF product manager hat on...]
>
> the request is about _exactly this_, for wikipedia edits. you mark your
contribution _when you write it_. you can do this by not changing your user
account, using your gmail address as sender. this use case is quite common,
and it is optional.

rupert.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[Keegan Peterzell]

Thank you for the notice, Amir, Pavlo, and thank you for the translation,
Maryana.

:*(

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[Victor Grigas]

This makes me so sad and angry.


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 5:54 PM, James Alexander
wrote:

> :(
>
> Not much else to say. Too many to die too many to face their end. Whatever
> side you're on he faced a patriot's death fighting for his beliefs. It
> should not be, but he should be remembered along with all those who stood
> their conscience.
>
> My thoughts and prayers are with you all and his family in particular :(.
>
> James
>
>
> Whether our lives and our deaths were for
> peace and a new hope or for nothing we cannot say,
> it is you who must say this.
>
> We leave you our deaths. Give them their meaning.
> We were young, they say. We have died; remember us.
>
> --Archibald MacLeish
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> James Alexander
> Legal and Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation
> +1 415-839-6885 x6716
>
>
> > On Feb 23, 2014, at 17:01, Maryana Pinchuk 
> wrote:
> >
> > For those of you who don't read Ukrainian, a quick ad-hoc translation of
> > the blog post. So sorry for the loss of a fellow Ukrainian and such a
> > bright young member of the Wikimedia movement :(
> >
> > * * *
> >
> > "Wikipedian Igor Kostenko dies on the Maidan.
> >
> > February 20, 2014, during the protests in Kiev, Igor Kostenko – an active
> > contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, journalist and geography student
> –
> > died tragically.
> >
> > Igor Kostenko was born December 31, 1991, in the village of Zubrets in
> the
> > Buchach region of Ternopil. After graduating from high school, he
> attended
> > Ivan Franko University in Lviv, where he was in his fifth year of study
> in
> > the department of geography, majoring in Organizational Management. In
> > addition to his studies, he worked as a journalist for the publication
> > "Sports Analysis."
> >
> > Igor was an active contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, writing under
> > the username Ig2000.[1] Igor registered an account on July 23, 2011, and
> in
> > just that month began writing his first articles. In two and a half
> years,
> > he wrote over 280 articles and made over 1,600 edits. He had a wide range
> > of encyclopedic interests – he wrote articles on sports topics (soccer,
> > Formula One), geography, economics, and the history of the Ukrainian
> > military. His article on the Nezamozhnyk destroyer of the Ukrainian and
> > Soviet fleet in the first half of the 20th century[2] was acknowledged
> for
> > its quality by the community and achieved the status of "Good article."
> > Additionally, he contributed many updates on sports events to Wikinews.
> >
> > Igor was also active in promoting Ukrainian Wikipedia on social media,
> > through which he sought to gain more contributors. He was an
> administrator
> > of the Ukrainian Wikipedians Facebook page,[3] where he regularly posted
> > interesting facts from Wikipedia. In August 2013 he proposed hosting a
> Wiki
> > Flashmob – inviting a large group of Ukrainians to participate in a day
> of
> > article-writing on Wikipedia. The Wiki Flashmob was planned for January
> 20,
> > 2014, the 10-year anniversary of Ukrainian Wikipedia, but due to the
> tragic
> > events in the country, the event was cancelled. Igor believed that the
> > flashmob would help fill Wikipedia with thousands of new articles in the
> > course of a day and proposed a strategy to realize his dream, but
> > unfortunately, he did not live to see it become a reality.
> >
> > On February 18, 2014, along with other students from Lviv, Igor came to
> > Kiev to the Euromaidan, because he wanted Ukraine to be led by people
> with
> > a patriotic spirit. On February 20th, during a protest on Instytutskaya
> > Street, Igor died tragically: he bravely went ahead with a shield, but he
> > was shot by two bullets, one of which struck him in the head...
> >
> > Today, February 23, Igor was buried in his home town of Buchach.
> Thousands
> > of people accompanied him on his final journey – both students from Lviv
> > and residents of Ternopil.
> >
> > In honor of Igor and the tens of others who died on the Euromaidan,[4] on
> > February 21, the community decided to modify the logo of the Ukrainian
> > Wikipedia with a black ribbon as a symbol of mourning.
> >
> > The editors of Ukrainian Wikipedia and Wikimedia Ukraine offer their
> > condolences to the friends and family of Igor Kostenko. A page has been
> > created on Wikipedia where you can leave your condolences.[5]
> >
> > Memory eternal..."
> >
> > 1.
> >
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87:Ig2000
> > 2.
> >
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_(%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C)
> > 3. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukwiki/
> > 4.
> >
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%85_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%B2_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83
> 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a "group", and "COI" to an edit

[Steven Walling]

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:25 AM, rupert THURNER wrote:

> could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
> 1. it should knows "groups"
> 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile
> 3. allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
> 4. add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of
> interest"
> 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in history
> views
> 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in
> history views
> 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
> page,
>or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
>

[With my WMF product manager hat on...]

This a big request with many moving parts. We should probably try to
separate them out and simplify where we can. I'd recommend filing bugs for
structured information about groups, profiles, the ability to join/leave
groups, activity feeds per group, and more. This is something that is of
general interest, and is not specific to COI-related issues at all.

Gryllida's comment was a bit abrasive but is a correct understanding of the
challenge here I think, in terms of creating richer kinds of information
about types of edits/editors without making a user do unnecessary extra
work. Imagine if there is essentially as many group types as there are
categories, for instance. It probably makes more sense to have collections
of pages associated with a group, so that we can generate a feed of group
activity not by making the user select a group when saving, but
automatically. So for example: I'm in "Group:Beer" and I edit the article
on "Pilsner", so my edits show in a feed of edits by Group:Beer members to
articles in that subject.

In the long run, we should start creating structured information about
topical groups, and let people access it both through a group page as well
as some kind of editor profile. However, it's not going to happen in the
next calendar year, so I'm not sure it's a good interim solution to the
problem of how to make COI disclosures easier. AbuseFilter also is honestly
probably not the right solution, even if self-tagging existed.

Steven
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[James Alexander]

:( 

Not much else to say. Too many to die too many to face their end. Whatever side 
you're on he faced a patriot's death fighting for his beliefs. It should not 
be, but he should be remembered along with all those who stood their conscience.

My thoughts and prayers are with you all and his family in particular :(.

James 


Whether our lives and our deaths were for
peace and a new hope or for nothing we cannot say,
it is you who must say this.

We leave you our deaths. Give them their meaning.
We were young, they say. We have died; remember us.

--Archibald MacLeish

Sent from my iPhone


James Alexander
Legal and Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation
+1 415-839-6885 x6716


> On Feb 23, 2014, at 17:01, Maryana Pinchuk  wrote:
> 
> For those of you who don't read Ukrainian, a quick ad-hoc translation of
> the blog post. So sorry for the loss of a fellow Ukrainian and such a
> bright young member of the Wikimedia movement :(
> 
> * * *
> 
> "Wikipedian Igor Kostenko dies on the Maidan.
> 
> February 20, 2014, during the protests in Kiev, Igor Kostenko – an active
> contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, journalist and geography student –
> died tragically.
> 
> Igor Kostenko was born December 31, 1991, in the village of Zubrets in the
> Buchach region of Ternopil. After graduating from high school, he attended
> Ivan Franko University in Lviv, where he was in his fifth year of study in
> the department of geography, majoring in Organizational Management. In
> addition to his studies, he worked as a journalist for the publication
> "Sports Analysis."
> 
> Igor was an active contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, writing under
> the username Ig2000.[1] Igor registered an account on July 23, 2011, and in
> just that month began writing his first articles. In two and a half years,
> he wrote over 280 articles and made over 1,600 edits. He had a wide range
> of encyclopedic interests – he wrote articles on sports topics (soccer,
> Formula One), geography, economics, and the history of the Ukrainian
> military. His article on the Nezamozhnyk destroyer of the Ukrainian and
> Soviet fleet in the first half of the 20th century[2] was acknowledged for
> its quality by the community and achieved the status of "Good article."
> Additionally, he contributed many updates on sports events to Wikinews.
> 
> Igor was also active in promoting Ukrainian Wikipedia on social media,
> through which he sought to gain more contributors. He was an administrator
> of the Ukrainian Wikipedians Facebook page,[3] where he regularly posted
> interesting facts from Wikipedia. In August 2013 he proposed hosting a Wiki
> Flashmob – inviting a large group of Ukrainians to participate in a day of
> article-writing on Wikipedia. The Wiki Flashmob was planned for January 20,
> 2014, the 10-year anniversary of Ukrainian Wikipedia, but due to the tragic
> events in the country, the event was cancelled. Igor believed that the
> flashmob would help fill Wikipedia with thousands of new articles in the
> course of a day and proposed a strategy to realize his dream, but
> unfortunately, he did not live to see it become a reality.
> 
> On February 18, 2014, along with other students from Lviv, Igor came to
> Kiev to the Euromaidan, because he wanted Ukraine to be led by people with
> a patriotic spirit. On February 20th, during a protest on Instytutskaya
> Street, Igor died tragically: he bravely went ahead with a shield, but he
> was shot by two bullets, one of which struck him in the head...
> 
> Today, February 23, Igor was buried in his home town of Buchach. Thousands
> of people accompanied him on his final journey – both students from Lviv
> and residents of Ternopil.
> 
> In honor of Igor and the tens of others who died on the Euromaidan,[4] on
> February 21, the community decided to modify the logo of the Ukrainian
> Wikipedia with a black ribbon as a symbol of mourning.
> 
> The editors of Ukrainian Wikipedia and Wikimedia Ukraine offer their
> condolences to the friends and family of Igor Kostenko. A page has been
> created on Wikipedia where you can leave your condolences.[5]
> 
> Memory eternal..."
> 
> 1.
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87:Ig2000
> 2.
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_(%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C)
> 3. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukwiki/
> 4.
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%85_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%B2_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83
> 5.
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0:Ig2000/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%27%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%8C
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[Maryana Pinchuk]

For those of you who don't read Ukrainian, a quick ad-hoc translation of
the blog post. So sorry for the loss of a fellow Ukrainian and such a
bright young member of the Wikimedia movement :(

* * *

"Wikipedian Igor Kostenko dies on the Maidan.

February 20, 2014, during the protests in Kiev, Igor Kostenko – an active
contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, journalist and geography student –
died tragically.

Igor Kostenko was born December 31, 1991, in the village of Zubrets in the
Buchach region of Ternopil. After graduating from high school, he attended
Ivan Franko University in Lviv, where he was in his fifth year of study in
the department of geography, majoring in Organizational Management. In
addition to his studies, he worked as a journalist for the publication
"Sports Analysis."

Igor was an active contributor to the Ukrainian Wikipedia, writing under
the username Ig2000.[1] Igor registered an account on July 23, 2011, and in
just that month began writing his first articles. In two and a half years,
he wrote over 280 articles and made over 1,600 edits. He had a wide range
of encyclopedic interests – he wrote articles on sports topics (soccer,
Formula One), geography, economics, and the history of the Ukrainian
military. His article on the Nezamozhnyk destroyer of the Ukrainian and
Soviet fleet in the first half of the 20th century[2] was acknowledged for
its quality by the community and achieved the status of "Good article."
Additionally, he contributed many updates on sports events to Wikinews.

Igor was also active in promoting Ukrainian Wikipedia on social media,
through which he sought to gain more contributors. He was an administrator
of the Ukrainian Wikipedians Facebook page,[3] where he regularly posted
interesting facts from Wikipedia. In August 2013 he proposed hosting a Wiki
Flashmob – inviting a large group of Ukrainians to participate in a day of
article-writing on Wikipedia. The Wiki Flashmob was planned for January 20,
2014, the 10-year anniversary of Ukrainian Wikipedia, but due to the tragic
events in the country, the event was cancelled. Igor believed that the
flashmob would help fill Wikipedia with thousands of new articles in the
course of a day and proposed a strategy to realize his dream, but
unfortunately, he did not live to see it become a reality.

On February 18, 2014, along with other students from Lviv, Igor came to
Kiev to the Euromaidan, because he wanted Ukraine to be led by people with
a patriotic spirit. On February 20th, during a protest on Instytutskaya
Street, Igor died tragically: he bravely went ahead with a shield, but he
was shot by two bullets, one of which struck him in the head...

Today, February 23, Igor was buried in his home town of Buchach. Thousands
of people accompanied him on his final journey – both students from Lviv
and residents of Ternopil.

In honor of Igor and the tens of others who died on the Euromaidan,[4] on
February 21, the community decided to modify the logo of the Ukrainian
Wikipedia with a black ribbon as a symbol of mourning.

The editors of Ukrainian Wikipedia and Wikimedia Ukraine offer their
condolences to the friends and family of Igor Kostenko. A page has been
created on Wikipedia where you can leave your condolences.[5]

Memory eternal..."

1.
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87:Ig2000
2.
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_(%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C)
3. https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukwiki/
4.
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%85_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%B2_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83
5.
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B1%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8F_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B0:Ig2000/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%27%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%8C


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Big sigh.
>
> According to Wikimedia Ukraine blog, one Wikimedian was killed: Ihor
> Kostenko, a student of Geography born in 1991.
>
>
> http://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/in-memoriam-of-ihor-kostenko/
>
> You can express condolences here:
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ig2000/Пам'ять
>
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
>
> 2014-02-20 17:25 GMT+04:00 Tomasz W. Kozlowski :
>
> > The BBC reports that at least 22 people have died today in Kiev, Ukraine,
> > as result of the violent clashes between the opposition and the
> government
> > forces.
> >
> > I have briefly visited Maidan Nezalezhnosti in March 2012 on my way to a
> > Wiki Loves Monuments workshop; the city of Kiev and the square itself
> were
> > beautiful, an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[Pavlo Shevelo]

Yes, with deep sorrow today I got to know that I was wrong - *we lost one
wikipedian*.

I dare to hope that it will be one and only such 'mistake' meaning no more
dead bodies will be discovered and all heavily wounded people will survive.


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Big sigh.
>
> According to Wikimedia Ukraine blog, one Wikimedian was killed: Ihor
> Kostenko, a student of Geography born in 1991.
>
>
> http://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/in-memoriam-of-ihor-kostenko/
>
> You can express condolences here:
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ig2000/Пам'ять
>
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
>
> 2014-02-20 17:25 GMT+04:00 Tomasz W. Kozlowski :
>
> > The BBC reports that at least 22 people have died today in Kiev, Ukraine,
> > as result of the violent clashes between the opposition and the
> government
> > forces.
> >
> > I have briefly visited Maidan Nezalezhnosti in March 2012 on my way to a
> > Wiki Loves Monuments workshop; the city of Kiev and the square itself
> were
> > beautiful, and it is absolutely terrible to witness the events that are
> > happening there now.
> >
> > My thoughts are with Wikimedia Ukraine, which I know has at least a few
> > members living in the city of Kiev, and with other Wikimedia contributors
> > living in that city, as well as in the rest of Ukraine.
> >
> > Please let us know if everyone is safe, and if there is any way we can
> > help you.
> >
> > Stay safe! Залишайтеся в безпеці!
> >
> > Tomasz
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a "group", and "COI" to an edit

[Gryllida]

No, I mean, that's what article talk page is for.

It's close to useless to get a contributor admit COI by ticking a box. 
1) He won't do it.
2) It's much better to add a box to ?action=edit, when a page is created, 
asking the contributor to type something in manually ("what motivated you to 
create article? please disclose conflict of interest and affiliations to help 
us help you.").

Stop adding complexity, bureaucracy and terms. The learning curve is full 
enough of paperwork, terms, badges, and reviewing as is.

On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 16:47, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> Hoi,
> Why ?
> Thanks.
>  GerardM
> 
> 
> On 22 February 2014 21:13, Gryllida  wrote:
> 
> > I do mind 5 and 6, since their submissions would be deleted aggressively.
> > I feel that you may introduce a marker if you want, but not a separate
> > queue.
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 2:25, rupert THURNER wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
> > > 1. it should knows "groups"
> > > 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile
> > > 3. allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
> > > 4. add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of
> > interest"
> > > 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in
> > history
> > > views
> > > 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in
> > > history views
> > > 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
> > page,
> > >or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
> > >
> > > reason:
> > > currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it is
> > > quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most
> > prominent
> > > examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users tend
> > > to create multiple accounts, and try to create "company accounts". the
> > main
> > > reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general):
> > > * have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal archive
> > > for other users
> > > * make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee
> > >
> > > this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the
> > german
> > > community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this
> > > system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still be
> > > applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may
> > > continue to use "sue gardner (wmf)" accounts.
> > >
> > > what you think?
> > >
> > > best regards,
> > > rupert
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

[Amir E. Aharoni]

Big sigh.

According to Wikimedia Ukraine blog, one Wikimedian was killed: Ihor
Kostenko, a student of Geography born in 1991.

http://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/in-memoriam-of-ihor-kostenko/

You can express condolences here:
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ig2000/Пам'ять


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2014-02-20 17:25 GMT+04:00 Tomasz W. Kozlowski :

> The BBC reports that at least 22 people have died today in Kiev, Ukraine,
> as result of the violent clashes between the opposition and the government
> forces.
>
> I have briefly visited Maidan Nezalezhnosti in March 2012 on my way to a
> Wiki Loves Monuments workshop; the city of Kiev and the square itself were
> beautiful, and it is absolutely terrible to witness the events that are
> happening there now.
>
> My thoughts are with Wikimedia Ukraine, which I know has at least a few
> members living in the city of Kiev, and with other Wikimedia contributors
> living in that city, as well as in the rest of Ukraine.
>
> Please let us know if everyone is safe, and if there is any way we can
> help you.
>
> Stay safe! Залишайтеся в безпеці!
>
> Tomasz
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a "group", and "COI" to an edit

[Emmanuel Engelhart]

I don't know if this is a broadly shared opinion, but like Rupert, I
think this is too difficult to step-in as an organisation. This is in
particular true if you want to do it on an international/multi-language
level.

GLAMs, which are the organisations we want to treasure, are impacted
among others. Read this report from Switzerland for example:
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/January_2014/Contents/Switzerland_report

This is of course the duty of each language community to decide how to
deal with this thematic. However, Mediawiki can play a role by helping
to achieve as much as possible transparency. That the reason why I think
these concrete propositions are discussion worth.

I strongly believe that if the tool allows us to better take in
consideration and track "Corporate personhood" contributions then the
whole debate will be far less passionate, easier to conduct, and at the
end better solutions will emerge.

Emmanuel

Le 22/02/2014 16:25, rupert THURNER a écrit :
> could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
> 1. it should knows "groups"
> 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile
> 3. allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
> 4. add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of interest"
> 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in history
> views
> 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in
> history views
> 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group page,
>or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
> 
> reason:
> currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it is
> quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most prominent
> examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users tend
> to create multiple accounts, and try to create "company accounts". the main
> reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general):
> * have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal archive
> for other users
> * make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee
> 
> this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the german
> community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this
> system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still be
> applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may
> continue to use "sue gardner (wmf)" accounts.
> 
> what you think?




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a "group", and "COI" to an edit

[John Vandenberg]

Hi rupert,

I think this requester feature has merit, as it provides a tool for
communities to use for this purpose (COI) and others.

One possible implementation is the tag system already part of the Abuse
Filter extension. Bug 18670 requests the tag system be more flexible,
allowing false positives to be addessed, and would also allow self-tagging
of edits.

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18670
On Feb 22, 2014 10:26 PM, "rupert THURNER"  wrote:

> hi,
>
> could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
> 1. it should knows "groups"
> 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their profile
> 3. allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
> 4. add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of
> interest"
> 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in history
> views
> 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in
> history views
> 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
> page,
>or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
>
> reason:
> currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it is
> quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most prominent
> examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users tend
> to create multiple accounts, and try to create "company accounts". the main
> reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general):
> * have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal archive
> for other users
> * make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee
>
> this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the german
> community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this
> system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still be
> applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may
> continue to use "sue gardner (wmf)" accounts.
>
> what you think?
>
> best regards,
> rupert
> ---
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] extend mediawiki software to allow append a "group", and "COI" to an edit

[Jasper Deng]

I think this doesn't really address the core issues that surround this
hotly debated topic of paid editing. No further comment.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Why ?
> Thanks.
>  GerardM
>
>
> On 22 February 2014 21:13, Gryllida  wrote:
>
> > I do mind 5 and 6, since their submissions would be deleted aggressively.
> > I feel that you may introduce a marker if you want, but not a separate
> > queue.
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, at 2:25, rupert THURNER wrote:
> > > hi,
> > >
> > > could wmf please extend the mediawiki software in the following way:
> > > 1. it should knows "groups"
> > > 2. allow users to store an arbitrary number of groups with their
> profile
> > > 3. allow to select one of the "group"s joined to an edit when saving
> > > 4. add a checkbox "COI" to an edit, meaning "potential conflict of
> > interest"
> > > 5. display and filter edits marked with COI in a different color in
> > history
> > > views
> > > 6. display and filter edits done for a group in a different color in
> > > history views
> > > 7. allow members of a group to receive notifications done on the group
> > page,
> > >or when a group is mentioned in an edit/comment/talk page.
> > >
> > > reason:
> > > currently it is quite cumbersome to participate as an organisation. it
> is
> > > quite cumbersome for people as well to detect COI edits. the most
> > prominent
> > > examples are employees of the wikimedia foundation, and GLAMs. users
> tend
> > > to create multiple accounts, and try to create "company accounts". the
> > main
> > > reason for this behaviour are (examples, but of course valid general):
> > > * have a feedback page / notification page for the swiss federal
> archive
> > > for other users
> > > * make clear that an edit is done private or as wmf employee
> > >
> > > this then would allow the community to create new policies, e.g. the
> > german
> > > community might cease using company accounts, and switch over to this
> > > system. this proposal is purely technical. current policies can still
> be
> > > applied if people do not need something else, e.g. wmf employees may
> > > continue to use "sue gardner (wmf)" accounts.
> > >
> > > what you think?
> > >
> > > best regards,
> > > rupert
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