[Wikimedia-l] The Economist: "Wikipeaks? The popular online encyclopedia must work out what is next"

2014-04-20 Thread ENWP Pine
Here's a recent article from The Economist. Some of the reader comments about the article were interesting, especially considering the population that is likely to be reading and commenting about an article in The Economist. http://www.economist.com/news/international/21597959-popular-online-enc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian Open Street Map receive ALL VOICES GRANT

2014-04-20 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:48 AM, Anna Torres wrote: > Hi Isabella, > > Great news! Congratulations to all of you :) > In Argentina we are planning to build up a fundraising strategy this year. > Is there somewhere we can take a look to the project? While the WMID team puts online their project do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > 4. What does interest me, as a grantmaker, is where to draw the line > between the Rapa Nui end of the spectrum and languages that, with some > active promotion, could well become useful and much-needed reference > sources in some cultures. In

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > 0. "because we can" is indeed a very poor reason to do anything. We are > also probably the only global network that can ensure complete coverage of > all Pokémon characters in 100 languages. That's far from proof that we > should allocate ac

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Asaf Bartov
Interesting thoughts. I have a few brief comments, and will engage further (on Meta, perhaps) later: 0. "because we can" is indeed a very poor reason to do anything. We are also probably the only global network that can ensure complete coverage of all Pokémon characters in 100 languages. That's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Indonesia and Humanitarian Open Street Map receive ALL VOICES GRANT

2014-04-20 Thread Anna Torres
Hi Isabella, Great news! Congratulations to all of you :) In Argentina we are planning to build up a fundraising strategy this year. Is there somewhere we can take a look to the project? Thank you so much and congrats again! 2014-04-19 6:35 GMT-03:00 Nurunnaby Chowdhury : > Great news. Congr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Milos Rancic
First, I want to respond to the structural questions, among them some which I didn't mention: In short, we can because we have organizational infrastructure, capable to work with local people and bring them to edit Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects. That's not the rocket science. Working wit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Chris McKenna
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014, Isarra Yos wrote: Removing the affiliation from the name itself and adding it as a group would allow the mediawiki to format the name and group in a way that makes sense for the given language. Keep to the parentheses for english and such, do other things for ones where t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Isarra Yos
On 20/04/14 11:50, Liangent wrote: On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Amir E. Aharoni, 20/04/2014 08:39: Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with parentheses. It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and doesn't have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2014-04-20 6:46 GMT+03:00 Milos Rancic : > There is the question: Why should we do that? The answer is clear to > me: Because we can. You'll be hard-pressed to find a lot of people who support the general idea more than I do, but precisely because of that I believe that we must be optimistic-but-r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Balázs Viczián
imo there are a whole bunch of organizations and projects much better aimed and developed towards this question; I'd rather map them and contact the most developed ones instead of reinventing the wheel. Cheers, Balazs PS: This "because we can" reasoning is very very thin btw. (source?) 2014-04-2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Liangent
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Amir E. Aharoni, 20/04/2014 08:39: > > Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with >> parentheses. >> It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and >> doesn't have this problem. Thanks for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Chris McKenna
On Sun, 20 Apr 2014, geni wrote: On 20 April 2014 09:32, Hubert Laska wrote: What do you want to say with that? That it is thus no longer necessary, gaelic to lead as an example? Wikipedia does´nt end at national borders! Wikimedia UK however does. There is also the issue of changing poli

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Milos Rancic, 20/04/2014 05:46: Why should we do that? The answer is clear to me: Because we can. Can we? There is no evidence that our minuscule wikipedias have had any influence whatsoever on unofficial languages like, say, the alleged "lumbard" (lmo) dialect. It's probably more effective t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread geni
On 20 April 2014 09:32, Hubert Laska wrote: > What do you want to say with that? That it is thus no longer necessary, > gaelic to lead as an example? Wikipedia does´nt end at national borders! > > Wikimedia UK however does. There is also the issue of changing political status. While Westminister

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Hubert Laska
Am 20.04.2014 08:38, schrieb geni: On 20 April 2014 04:46, Milos Rancic wrote: I'd say that Scots Gaelic could be a good test (Wikimedia UK help needed!). It's a language with ~70k of speakers and if it's possible to achieve 100 active editors per month, we could say that it could somehow wor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

2014-04-20 Thread Hubert Laska
Hi Milos, at the same time when you are concerned about the collection / preservation of thousands of languages, I will briefly introduce a project that currently takes place in Austria together with the Austrian Academy of Sciences. This project has the same goal direction, which you mention,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Amir E. Aharoni, 20/04/2014 08:39: Silly technical remark: Everybody, please stop doing this with parentheses. It breaks in right to left languages. Gary-WMF is just as readable, and doesn't have this problem. Thanks for the attention. Your suggestion works against the built-in assumptions of M

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Affiliation in username

2014-04-20 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Amir, this is the first time that one's been brought up. I'll chat with OIT about potentially changing moving forward. pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewiki