Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright information not digitised?

2012-06-23 Thread Eddie Erhart
Whoa, in 1958/59, only *seven *percent of the books and *eleven *percent of
the journals were renewed? This may be obvious, but clarifying the
copyright status of these works would be a huge benefit to editors looking
for public domain image to illustrate Wikipedia articles... and that's not
including the benefits to the Commons and Wikisource.

--Ed

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM, John Vandenberg  wrote:

> There are scans of most of the relevant records, and the records for books
> are also transcribed by Project Gutenberg and searchable at a stanford uni
> website. See en.ws template PD-US-no-renewal. The scans need to be
> transcribed to increase accessibility.
> On Jun 24, 2012 3:50 AM, "Kim Bruning"  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > According to:
> >
> >
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120330/12402418305/why-missing-20th-century-books-is-even-worse-than-it-seems.shtml
> >
> > a lot of books have an uncertain copyright status, because the Copyright
> > Office records have not been
> > digitized yet.
> >
> > Is this true? Would offering to help digitize these records fit in our
> > mission
> > (especially wrt WikiSource) ?
> >
> > sincerely,
> >Kim Bruning
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright information not digitised?

2012-06-23 Thread John Vandenberg
There are scans of most of the relevant records, and the records for books
are also transcribed by Project Gutenberg and searchable at a stanford uni
website. See en.ws template PD-US-no-renewal. The scans need to be
transcribed to increase accessibility.
On Jun 24, 2012 3:50 AM, "Kim Bruning"  wrote:

>
>
> According to:
>
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120330/12402418305/why-missing-20th-century-books-is-even-worse-than-it-seems.shtml
>
> a lot of books have an uncertain copyright status, because the Copyright
> Office records have not been
> digitized yet.
>
> Is this true? Would offering to help digitize these records fit in our
> mission
> (especially wrt WikiSource) ?
>
> sincerely,
>Kim Bruning
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright information not digitised?

2012-06-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Kim Bruning, 23/06/2012 21:55:

According to:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120330/12402418305/why-missing-20th-century-books-is-even-worse-than-it-seems.shtml

a lot of books have an uncertain copyright status, because the Copyright Office 
records have not been
digitized yet.


This seems just a tiny part of the problem of uncertain copyright status...



Is this true? Would offering to help digitize these records fit in our mission
(especially wrt WikiSource) ?


Surely not. On the other hand, it's comparable to the orphan works issue 
(you can't be forced to an unlimited effort/expense just to determine 
whether someone can ask you something), which is worth working on. 
Aren't ALA and so on active on this front, as their European equivalents 
are for the orphan works problem?


Nemo

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright information not digitised?

2012-06-23 Thread Kim Bruning
> According to:
>   
> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120330/12402418305/why-missing-20th-century-books-is-even-worse-than-it-seems.shtml
> 
> a lot of books have an uncertain copyright status, because the Copyright 
> Office records have not been
> digitized yet.
> 
> Is this true? Would offering to help digitize these records fit in our mission
> (especially wrt WikiSource) ?


Hmmm, 

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120323/09045818223/public-domain-starves-while-copyright-office-struggles-to-modernize.shtml


http://blogs.loc.gov/copyrightdigitization/2012/03/a-virtual-copyright-card-catalog-tell-us-what-you-think/

Apparantly this is current, recent, and crowd-sourcing would help.
OCR/Correcting a card catalogue is not very sexy though. 

sincerely,
Kim Bruning

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[Wikimedia-l] Copyright information not digitised?

2012-06-23 Thread Kim Bruning


According to:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120330/12402418305/why-missing-20th-century-books-is-even-worse-than-it-seems.shtml

a lot of books have an uncertain copyright status, because the Copyright Office 
records have not been
digitized yet.

Is this true? Would offering to help digitize these records fit in our mission
(especially wrt WikiSource) ?

sincerely,
Kim Bruning


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who invoked "principle of least surprise" for the image filter?

2012-06-23 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
Jussi, I'm not finding the post you are replying too, what's the context here?

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
 wrote:
> The core problem here is that the Board is not alive and well.
> The Board of Trustees is dead in their shoes. What precisely
> are they *Trustees* of?
>
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> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endangered languages, a new project by Google

2012-06-23 Thread Samuel Klein
We can ask the Rosetta Project people - for them this is the heart and
soul of their work.  My sense from them last year was that this is
meant to do real work.

Join and find out :-) and help them publish more of their work on the
open web... S

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
 wrote:
> Samuel Klein, 21/06/2012 16:07:
>
>> Brilliant.  The WM language committee and/or lenguasoriginarias might
>> want to apply to join the Alliance for Linguistic Diversity.
>>
>> http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/about/#about_alliance
>
>
> Are they actually doing something or is this only a showcase-site/forum?
>
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