Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:49 PM, wrote: >> To reword what I said before the vast majority of X-ray images in existence >> are diagnostic >> images. There is no reason at all to purposefully search out X-rays that >> might land in some >> grey

[Wikimedia-l] Uncopyrightable works and cross-jurisdictional protections was Re: Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 23, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:20 AM, wrote: >> Snip > And even if it is only the US, other countries would not recognize copyright on diagnostic images created in the US, which gives us at least the NASA situation. >>> >>> Do you h

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide RFC closing in 3,2,...

2012-08-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Alice Wiegand, 23/08/2012 23:55: And here's a very short note about the next steps: The board is reviewing the RfC and its talk page over the next week. We are going to share our thoughts with you soon on the RfC's talk page. Please feel free to leave comments there, that's still possible and wil

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide RFC closing in 3,2,...

2012-08-23 Thread Alice Wiegand
And here's a very short note about the next steps: The board is reviewing the RfC and its talk page over the next week. We are going to share our thoughts with you soon on the RfC's talk page. Please feel free to leave comments there, that's still possible and will be read ;-) Regards, Alice On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 101, Issue 51

2012-08-23 Thread Robin McCain
This is a question best referred to the RC church. Stranger phenomena have been advanced for canonization :-) On 8/23/2012 6:39 AM, wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Hmm...you may be right on that. If I accidentally spill some paint on a canvas and it creates an image that looks l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide RFC closing in 3,2,...

2012-08-23 Thread Thomas Morton
On 23 August 2012 14:56, James Heilman wrote: > Most of the issues where addressed. And they only way to determine if many > of the concerns hold water is to simply try it. A travel guide will likely > be heavily read and edited. > > As a comparison their are an approximately an equal number of m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide RFC closing in 3,2,...

2012-08-23 Thread James Heilman
Most of the issues where addressed. And they only way to determine if many of the concerns hold water is to simply try it. A travel guide will likely be heavily read and edited. As a comparison their are an approximately an equal number of medical articles on Wikipedia to travel articles. Yet the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Anthony wrote: > And many others were designed, like the X-ray image, to objectively > depict reality. In fact, in theory, almost all the images in an encyclopedia should be of this type (I say "almost" because there will also be images which are there for the pur

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:49 PM, wrote: > To reword what I said before the vast majority of X-ray images in existence > are diagnostic > images. There is no reason at all to purposefully search out X-rays that > might land in some > grey area. One problem with that is that the X-ray images tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:34 AM, wrote: > On Aug 22, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Anthony wrote: >> I could be wrong, but I'm not sure there's a requirement for aesthetic >> or artistic purpose. Non-fiction, software, legal contracts, etc., >> all have been held to be copyrightable. > > I think you are ov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:20 AM, wrote: > I believe artistic/non-artistic is accurate for images. Technically it is > artistic, literary, dramatic, > or musical works. Well, I think that's an abuse of the term "artistic". The job of a photojournalist, for instance, is to capture what is true,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 22, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Todd Allen wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Anthony wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Thomas Dalton >>> wrote: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Upperarm.jpg >>> >>> http://common

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:14 AM, wrote: >> I really doubt non-artistic works are copyrighted as a general rule anywhere > > I'm not sure what you mean by "non-artistic", but if you mean "purely > utilitarian", as that term is interpreted by the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Copyright on Xrays

2012-08-23 Thread Birgitte_sb
On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Anthony wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:14 AM, wrote: >>> Now clearly being able to judge that X is a utilitarian work is the more >>> normal problem with >>> this argument and why it is seldom used. Diagn

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide RFC closing in 3,2,...

2012-08-23 Thread Thomas Morton
I see none of the issues raised were really addressed. Another spam filled, little populated, project then. *sigh* Tom On 23 August 2012 11:53, Andrew Gray wrote: > On 22 August 2012 22:39, Kim Bruning wrote: > > For those interested, a quick reminder: > > > > The travel guide RFC will (soft

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide RFC closing in 3,2,...

2012-08-23 Thread Andrew Gray
On 22 August 2012 22:39, Kim Bruning wrote: > For those interested, a quick reminder: > > The travel guide RFC will (soft) close in 1 hour, 17 minutes as of the > moment this mail is sent. (At 0:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)) > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Travel_Guide