[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 9, Issue 04 -- 21 January 2013

2013-01-23 Thread Wikipedia Signpost 
News and notes: Requests for adminship reform moves forward
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WikiProject report: Say What? — WikiProject Linguistics
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Arbitration report: ''Doncram'' case continues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-01-21/Arbitration_report

Technology report: Data centre switchover a tentative success
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Licencing question

2013-01-23 Thread ??? 

On 23/01/2013 12:39, Richard Symonds wrote:

My initial question was aimed to find out what sort of attribution we'd
need to do on Wikimedia UK sites - eg, uk.wikimedia.org and
blog.wikimedia.org.

I'm not really *keen* on changing policy on Wikipedia. That's not my job!



In that case just do what flickr does when someone grabs the code from 
the "Share->Grab the HTML/BBCode" link.



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter 

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:12:17 -0500, Rjd0060 wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
wrote:


Thanks for your response. I actually meant not the list of queues, 
but the
list of queues for which breakdowns are available - they only exist 
in four
of five languages for the general queues. Why are other languages 
not

available?

Cheers
Yaroslav




Ah, apologies.  This is because the other languages do not have
"subqueues".  All tickets for the other languages are not sorted, and 
all

are handled in the languages' main info-** queue.


Oh, I see. Thanks.

Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Rjd0060 
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

> Thanks for your response. I actually meant not the list of queues, but the
> list of queues for which breakdowns are available - they only exist in four
> of five languages for the general queues. Why are other languages not
> available?
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>


Ah, apologies.  This is because the other languages do not have
"subqueues".  All tickets for the other languages are not sorted, and all
are handled in the languages' main info-** queue.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter 

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:56:58 -0500, Rjd0060 wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
wrote:







All info queues and permissions queues were included in this report.  
If a
language is not listed, it is because there is no queue for that 
particular

language - do you have any specific ones in mind?

For languages without their own queue, the main "info" and 
"permissions"

queues handle them.
Hope this helps.


Thanks for your response. I actually meant not the list of queues, but 
the list of queues for which breakdowns are available - they only exist 
in four of five languages for the general queues. Why are other 
languages not available?


Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Rjd0060 
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:30:13 -0600, Keegan Peterzell wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> ...
>> This is the first of further future documentation of traffic received to
>> the general OTRS queues.  In the report you will find data breakdowns for
>> OTRS admin logged action, all info queues, breakdowns of info queues with
>> subqueues, sister projects, and other maintenance details.  Since the
>> report contains a large number of datasets, I am not including the text
>> here.  If you need, I'll happily provide it by email.
>>
>>
>> 1. 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/OTRS/Reports/2012
>> 2. 
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/OTRS
>>
>> For the team,
>>
>
> This is great, thanks. What is the choice of languages for which
> breakdowns are provided  determined by? I see that some languages with high
> traffic were not given. Is it that for some languages OTRS users were
> willing to cooperate, and for others they were not prepared to?
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
>
>
>

All info queues and permissions queues were included in this report.  If a
language is not listed, it is because there is no queue for that particular
language - do you have any specific ones in mind?

For languages without their own queue, the main "info" and "permissions"
queues handle them.
Hope this helps.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter 

On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 00:30:13 -0600, Keegan Peterzell wrote:

Greetings,

...
This is the first of further future documentation of traffic received 
to
the general OTRS queues.  In the report you will find data breakdowns 
for
OTRS admin logged action, all info queues, breakdowns of info queues 
with

subqueues, sister projects, and other maintenance details.  Since the
report contains a large number of datasets, I am not including the 
text

here.  If you need, I'll happily provide it by email.

1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Reports/2012
2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS

For the team,


This is great, thanks. What is the choice of languages for which 
breakdowns are provided  determined by? I see that some languages with 
high traffic were not given. Is it that for some languages OTRS users 
were willing to cooperate, and for others they were not prepared to?


Cheers
Yaroslav


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Licencing question

2013-01-23 Thread Richard Symonds 
My initial question was aimed to find out what sort of attribution we'd
need to do on Wikimedia UK sites - eg, uk.wikimedia.org and
blog.wikimedia.org.

I'm not really *keen* on changing policy on Wikipedia. That's not my job!

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over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 23 January 2013 12:22, Thomas Dalton  wrote:

> On 23 January 2013 10:10, Stevie Benton 
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > An issue this raises for me is this: If we're to include copyright
> > information on blog posts regarding the use of CC licensed images, is
> this
> > going to have to be applied to all Wikipedia articles illustrated with
> > images too? Apologies if I've missed something here.
>
> Yes, I think Richard's initial question was about Wikipedia, etc.. The
> subject of blogs was just raised as an example of somewhere we
> sometimes take a different approach.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Licencing question

2013-01-23 Thread Thomas Dalton 
On 23 January 2013 10:10, Stevie Benton  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> An issue this raises for me is this: If we're to include copyright
> information on blog posts regarding the use of CC licensed images, is this
> going to have to be applied to all Wikipedia articles illustrated with
> images too? Apologies if I've missed something here.

Yes, I think Richard's initial question was about Wikipedia, etc.. The
subject of blogs was just raised as an example of somewhere we
sometimes take a different approach.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Andrew Gray 
Bear in mind that this year's figures will be skewed by the absolutely
enormous SOPA response - I don't have the final numbers to hand, but I know
that at one point that morning OTRS was fielding an email every minute or
two about it. It's not clear from the report if these are seperated out or
if they're included in the overall info-en unsorted total.

- Andrew.

On Wednesday, 23 January 2013, phoebe ayers wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:
> > Keegan Peterzell wrote:
> >>1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Reports/2012
> >>2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS
> >
> > Nice. Thanks for putting this together. :-)
> >
> > MZMcBride
> >
>
> +1, thanks, this is a great report! It's very cool to see these
> numbers. Answering 50K emails, many of which are complex and delicate,
> is a pretty massive undertaking -- as ever I am super impressed with
> the diligence of our OTRS'ers!
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Rjd0060 
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:23 AM, Jon Davies wrote:

> Do the response times get published?



Jon,

Not in the current batch of stats.  In the coming weeks, we're going to be
working on more detailed reports on specific queues.  Response time
information (and more!) will be included in that.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Licencing question

2013-01-23 Thread Stevie Benton 
Hello all,

An issue this raises for me is this: If we're to include copyright
information on blog posts regarding the use of CC licensed images, is this
going to have to be applied to all Wikipedia articles illustrated with
images too? Apologies if I've missed something here.

Thanks,

Stevie

On 22 January 2013 23:51, Michael Jahn  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> great question, Richard! Seconding Matthew's comment on WMF blog policy: At
> Wikimedia Deutschland we adopted the bottom notes for posts with multiple
> images[1]. As a general rule, we include attribution in the bylines[2].
>
> Adding yet another aspect to sufficient CC licensing, let's not forget that
> CC deeds actually recommend linking to deeds[3], as exemplified here[4].
>
> I particularly like Thomas' notion of not differentiating between
> attribution requirements for text and images. From my personal
> understanding of CC license terms, I agree. There is no difference, which
> indeed leads to the question:
>
> "How to deal with authorship attribution of dozens of authors (to pick a
> rather simple example) under CC-BY-SA in any convincing manner?" That is,
> "convincing" as in "intuitive and practical use cases".
>
> I sense that this is, first of all, an issue for Creative Commons licensing
> politics.
>
> Best,
> Michael
>
>
> [1] see e. g.
>
> https://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/01/17/die-gesichter-hinter-den-zahlen-ein-ruckblick-auf-die-spendenkampagne-2012-2/
> [2] see e. g.
>
> https://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/01/21/die-server-der-wikimedia-foundation-ziehen-um/
> [3] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
> [4] please follow the asterisc here
>
> http://blog.wikimedia.de/2012/06/20/zahlen-und-bilder-die-wikimania-2012-in-washington-d-c/
>
> 2013/1/22 Matthew Roth 
>
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Richard Symonds <
> > richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I have a question for you which I am sure you will enjoy discussing.
> It's
> > > about licencing.
> > >
> > > Wikimedia sites do not use a 'byline' on their images - for example,
> > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page requires an image to be
> > > clicked
> > > on before you can view the licence and the author information. The same
> > > applies for Wikipedia, and the WMF (and WMUK) blogs.
> > >
> >
> > Hi Richard,
> > On the Wikimedia blog, we include "Copyright notes" at the bottom of each
> > post with images and include the Title of the photo, the author's name
> (and
> > link to userpage if available) and the link to the relevant license page
> on
> > CC or elsewhere. See for example:
> >
> >
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/19/wikimedia-sites-move-to-primary-data-center-in-ashburn-virginia/
> >
> > This process was formalized after a Commons user pointed out to us that
> we
> > appeared not to be in compliance with the URI sub-clause of the CC-BY-SA
> > license. cf sections 4 a) and 4 b) here:
> > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode
> >
> > Our legal team affirmed the Commons user's assertion and we have
> > subsequently implemented the Copyright notes special field in the admin
> end
> > or our blog. You can see a bit more info here on the instructions we give
> > to post authors and editors:
> >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Guidelines#Add_Copyright_Notes
> >
> > thanks,
> > Matthew
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] OTRS summaries and statistics report, 2012

2013-01-23 Thread Jon Davies 
Do the response times get published?

On 23 January 2013 01:28, phoebe ayers  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:51 AM, MZMcBride  wrote:
> > Keegan Peterzell wrote:
> >>1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS/Reports/2012
> >>2. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS
> >
> > Nice. Thanks for putting this together. :-)
> >
> > MZMcBride
> >
>
> +1, thanks, this is a great report! It's very cool to see these
> numbers. Answering 50K emails, many of which are complex and delicate,
> is a pretty massive undertaking -- as ever I am super impressed with
> the diligence of our OTRS'ers!
>
> -- phoebe
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