Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
well put. I think that clearly WMF legal department assumed that having the trademark registered is such a good idea that it does not require a dialogue with the community, while the symbolic beginnings and the history of logo creation make such a move, especially without a prior discussion and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Gervai
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl wrote: well put. I think that clearly WMF legal department assumed that having the trademark registered is such a good idea that it does not require a dialogue with the community, My _general_ problem, however, that I have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2013/3/20 James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I won't argue the fact that there is value in protecting the iconography of the Wikimedia movement from abuse. What I argue with is the approach of the legal department - to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info: Markus Glaser is elected Chair of the Wikimedia Chapters Association Council

2013-03-20 Thread Tonmoy Khan
Congratulations to Marcus! Tonmoy On Mar 19, 2013 4:52 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Thanks Fae indeed for the hard work. It is a pity that things went as they went - and that you had to work under tough circumstances. Of course it is the council as a whole that bears

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Lodewijk
This is indeed why I dislike the whole trademark move. Not because I don't understand the difference between trademarks and copyright, but probably I have different goals in mind. It is a natural state for a legal team to play defensive, and protect. I can't blame them for that, although the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-20 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-03-18 13:01, Fae a écrit : I suggest you step away from the technology component before this becomes a mantra. Given a span of 100 years, assumptions become rather large. We can start to assume that within one or two decades, *everyone* on the planet is data-connected, we can assume

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Report, February 2013

2013-03-20 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-03-18 21:45, Garfield Byrd a écrit : Pine: Our relationship with JP Morgan Chase is that they handle part of our international banking. This is a separate division of the bank from the one that had the trading losses. I agree with you that this type of news report is not good news.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-20 Thread Terry Chay
Daniel, On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote: BTW, why is WMF looking for a WordPress Developer? So is it just design or is it developing? If it is actual software development, i'd have to think who is going to review and maintain that code after the super

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-20 Thread Terry Chay
On Mar 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: We're really interested in wiki-fying the blog at some point too, or at least marrying more of the technologies. I'd love to us to use a wiki-based

[Wikimedia-l] Mid-Year Financial Statements

2013-03-20 Thread Gayle Karen Young
Hi Pine! *We overtly recruit outside of SF. I think our latest hire was from Texas! Last year 23% were remote employees, and that percentage has increased to 31% this year. Of that 31%, 17% live abroad. **As of February 2013, 27% of staff is female, 28% minority, 34% are foreign nationals, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 March 2013 02:06, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: We're really interested in wiki-fying the blog at some point too, or at least marrying more of the technologies. I'd love to us to use a wiki-based system, but

[Wikimedia-l] Tomorrow: Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

2013-03-20 Thread Frank Schulenburg
Hi folks, Tomorrow at 17:00 UTC, I will be holding an office hour about program evaluation on #wikimedia-office. The target audience for this office hour will be chapter representatives and volunteers who are currently running (or planning to run) programs and programmatic activities. You'll find

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-20 Thread Isarra Yos
On the other hand, how hard could it be to just write an extension to integrate a wordpress database and interface into a mediawiki? Call it a new namespace on the mediawiki end, and... uh... horrible things on the wordpress end... I was going to say that if I had enough spare time I could

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-20 Thread James Alexander
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand, how hard could it be to just write an extension to integrate a wordpress database and interface into a mediawiki? Call it a new namespace on the mediawiki end, and... uh... horrible things on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Luis Villa
Hi, Nathan- On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I won't argue the fact that there is value in protecting the iconography of the Wikimedia movement from abuse. What I argue with is the approach of the legal department You're right that we could have communicated

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-20 Thread Isarra Yos
On 20/03/13 21:09, James Alexander wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand, how hard could it be to just write an extension to integrate a wordpress database and interface into a mediawiki? Call it a new namespace on the mediawiki end,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Report, February 2013

2013-03-20 Thread Garfield Byrd
Mathieu: As I make progress on this issue, I will be reporting to the Wikimedia Foundation Audit Committee. Any significant changes, on this topic, will be included as part of the scheduled reports of the Wikimedia Foundation. Regards, Garfield On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Mathieu Stumpf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] open positions at WMF

2013-03-20 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote: Dogfooding our product is great but shouldnt' be done just because it should be done where the product makes sense for the task. Supporting more flexible designs - particularly in the realm of extensions - would be good for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-20 Thread Garfield Byrd
SJ: I have been asked by the Audit Committee to do a report on the Endowment Issue and present the report at their next meeting, which will take place in this summer. Regards, Garfield On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mid-Year Financial Statements

2013-03-20 Thread Garfield Byrd
Thomas: Our plans for the reserve are included in the WMF Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) for the 2010-11 Audited Financial Statements: *The cash balance has increased from $12 million to over $21 million. What is the * *Wikimedia Foundation's view on its increasing cash reserve?* * * *The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mid-Year Financial Statements

2013-03-20 Thread Thomas Dalton
Yes, I've seen the mentions in the FAQs. That doesn't constitute a reserve policy and is very vague. In the absence of a reserve policy, we must assume your policy is to have the planned level of reserves. If you underspend and put the extra in reserves, that means you have too much in reserves.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

2013-03-20 Thread ENWP Pine
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:31:57 -0700 From: Frank Schulenburg frank.schulenb...@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Tomorrow: Office hour inside out (program evaluation) Message-ID:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Mid-Year Financial Statements

2013-03-20 Thread ENWP Pine
Thomas, I agree with you that it would make sense to have a more thoroughly defined reserve policy, but I also caution against micromanaging the reserve. I believe that I said in my previous email directed to Erik that I'm wondering what the downside is of having some underspend for payroll due

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 March 2013 00:32, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: ... +1. Thanks to all who commented on this thread. Nice to know you don't believe in marginalizing those commenting as alarmist hippie crap. Thanks, Fae That

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

2013-03-20 Thread Samuel Klein
I hope the Grants Retrospective comes up as one possible model for evaluation. Its output had some useful features and side effects. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:48 AM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:31:57 -0700 From: Frank Schulenburg