Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread Peter Southwood

Small teacup - big storm
Totally inoffensive.
Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com

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Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:44 AM
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images


Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of 
this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a 
photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's 
fingers.

--Teles


[1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg


Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:16:49 +0100
From: chriskeatingw...@gmail.com
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images


 I am extraordinarily confused to the point that I had to double check 
 my

 inbox that this is a Wikimedia-l thread.


I'd like someone to clarify if this thread has been approved by LaffCom?
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of
 this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a
 photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers.
 --Teles

 I guess it's time to reveal the truth to all of you; Brandon doesn't
actually /have/ any fingers. A sad story, really - he irrevocably damaged
them throwing the horns at a Dethklok concert. You'd expect it to slow him
down, what with his employment as a designer, but luckily his hair is
perfectly serviceable as a contact medium with tablets - and, in a pinch,
can even be used as a brush.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2013-14 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-14 Thread Craig Franklin
As SJ and John have pointed out, there are many good reasons to wikify
documents like this, not in the least to allow deep linking, and make
reading more convenient on mediums that don't play nicely with PDF (like
smartphones).  So long as the wikified version is protected so as to
maintain its integrity, I don't think there'll be any serious problems.

Cheers,
Craig


On 14 July 2013 04:39, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Saturday, July 13, 2013, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:

  John Vandenberg wrote:
 
   I have converted it to wiki text.
 
 
  I wonder why it requires a volunteer to pick up a task that WMF employees
  should have done in the first place...
 
  -- Tomasz


 The Annual Plan is not really meant to be freely editable. The people
 building the plan didn't just forget to make it in to a wiki page, they
 no doubt chose not to. If John or someone wants to convert it they're free
 to do so naturally, but it's unlikely it will be treated as a canonical
 version. As people edit it, it's going to lead to discrepancies with the
 original, which no doubt will confuse and annoy people looking for its
 contents.





 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2013-14 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-14 Thread Richard Symonds
Presumably the official plan (the master) would remain as the PDF version
as approved by the board?

Richard Symonds
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Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

*Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


On 14 July 2013 12:50, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote:

 As SJ and John have pointed out, there are many good reasons to wikify
 documents like this, not in the least to allow deep linking, and make
 reading more convenient on mediums that don't play nicely with PDF (like
 smartphones).  So long as the wikified version is protected so as to
 maintain its integrity, I don't think there'll be any serious problems.

 Cheers,
 Craig


 On 14 July 2013 04:39, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Saturday, July 13, 2013, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
 
   John Vandenberg wrote:
  
I have converted it to wiki text.
  
  
   I wonder why it requires a volunteer to pick up a task that WMF
 employees
   should have done in the first place...
  
   -- Tomasz
 
 
  The Annual Plan is not really meant to be freely editable. The people
  building the plan didn't just forget to make it in to a wiki page, they
  no doubt chose not to. If John or someone wants to convert it they're
 free
  to do so naturally, but it's unlikely it will be treated as a canonical
  version. As people edit it, it's going to lead to discrepancies with the
  original, which no doubt will confuse and annoy people looking for its
  contents.
 
 
 
 
 
  
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikifying a traveling science exhibition about the digital society

2013-07-14 Thread Daniel Mietchen
Dear all,

a ship is cruising rivers in and around Germany with a science
exhibition every year. The topic for next year is the digital society,
and you are invited to edit the exhibition, e.g. by proposing
individual exhibits or by making suggestions about the overall
concept.

The project page in German is at
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Ausstellungen/MS_Wissenschaft_%E2%80%93_Digitale_Gesellschaft
,
and a summary in English sits at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Ship .

Thanks and cheers,

Daniel

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2013-14 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-14 Thread Samuel Klein
Presumably yes. That's the usual procedure for other wikified or translated
docs.
On Jul 14, 2013 8:31 AM, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk
wrote:

 Presumably the official plan (the master) would remain as the PDF version
 as approved by the board?

 Richard Symonds
 Wikimedia UK
 0207 065 0992

 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and
 Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered
 Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT.
 United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia
 movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who
 operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).

 *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control
 over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*


 On 14 July 2013 12:50, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote:

  As SJ and John have pointed out, there are many good reasons to wikify
  documents like this, not in the least to allow deep linking, and make
  reading more convenient on mediums that don't play nicely with PDF (like
  smartphones).  So long as the wikified version is protected so as to
  maintain its integrity, I don't think there'll be any serious problems.
 
  Cheers,
  Craig
 
 
  On 14 July 2013 04:39, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Saturday, July 13, 2013, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote:
  
John Vandenberg wrote:
   
 I have converted it to wiki text.
   
   
I wonder why it requires a volunteer to pick up a task that WMF
  employees
should have done in the first place...
   
-- Tomasz
  
  
   The Annual Plan is not really meant to be freely editable. The people
   building the plan didn't just forget to make it in to a wiki page,
 they
   no doubt chose not to. If John or someone wants to convert it they're
  free
   to do so naturally, but it's unlikely it will be treated as a canonical
   version. As people edit it, it's going to lead to discrepancies with
 the
   original, which no doubt will confuse and annoy people looking for its
   contents.
  
  
  
  
  
   
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Uruguay recognized as newest chapter

2013-07-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Dear all,

It is my pleasure to bring to your attention the Board's latest resolution
that recognizes Wikimedia Uruguay as the newest Wikimedia chapter:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Uruguay

Please welcome them to the Wikimedia family with open arms and wish them
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Uruguay recognized as newest chapter

2013-07-14 Thread Tonmoy Khan
Congratulations WM Uruguay:)

--
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Sent from mobile
On Jul 14, 2013 10:10 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

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 It is my pleasure to bring to your attention the Board's latest resolution
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 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Uruguay

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Uruguay recognized as newest chapter

2013-07-14 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury
Congrtz WM Uruguay..


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Tonmoy Khan tonmoy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Congratulations WM Uruguay:)

 --
 Ali Haidar Khan
 Treasurer, Wikimedia Bangladesh

 Sent from mobile
 On Jul 14, 2013 10:10 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  It is my pleasure to bring to your attention the Board's latest
 resolution
  that recognizes Wikimedia Uruguay as the newest Wikimedia chapter:
 
 
 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Uruguay
 
  Please welcome them to the Wikimedia family with open arms and wish them
  success in furthering our mission in Uruguay!
 
  Best regards,
 
  Bence Damokos,
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Tech newsletter #29

2013-07-14 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Greetings,

As you might have read on the wikis or the Wikimedia blog (
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*Recent software changes* *(Not all changes will affect you.)*

   - The latest version of MediaWiki
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   was added to test wikis on July 11. It will be
enabledhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.22/Roadmapon
non–Wikipedia sites on July 15, and on all Wikipedias on July 18.
   [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/73201/
   - The 
Disambiguatorhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Disambiguatorextension
was enabled on all Wikimedia wikis on July 9 (bug
   #50174 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50174). To use
   it, add the __DISAMBIG__ code to disambiguation templates (see
examplehttps://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=120414784oldid=76564202).
   [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72646/
   - The Universal Language
Selectorhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UniversalLanguageSelectorwas
added to all remaining wikis on July 9, finishing the process of
   
replacinghttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/Deployment/Planningthe
   Narayam https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Narayam and
WebFontshttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebFontsextensions.
   [3] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/71971/
   - The 
CommonsDelinkerhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CommonsDelinkerbot
is now on-line and operating again, after a password problem was fixed
(bug
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   - 
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templates to prepare for VisualEditor. A
  
tutorialhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:TemplateDatais
available.
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  ).
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been fixed in VisualEditor during the past two weeks.
   - The Wikimedia technical
reporthttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2013/Junefor
June has been published, with a
   
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can be translated.

*Future software changes*

   - A new version of the Single User
Loginhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Single_User_Loginsystem for
global accounts will be enabled on July 17. Users will now
   automatically go back to the previous page instead of seeing the Login
   success page with logos.
[4]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2013-July/000291.html
   - The software that resizes images on all wikis will change on July 18.
   Resizing of big images will be faster and more reliable, and the resolution
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   removed. 
[5]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2013-July/000306.html
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AbuseFilterhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter)
   will now also be on diff pages. They include a link to
Special:Tagshttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Tagsbefore the
edit summary. Wikis that use links in tag messages should remove
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[7]https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/72984/
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Uruguay recognized as newest chapter

2013-07-14 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello,
Are there Urugyans on this list? Otherwise, it might make more sense to
give the general email or chair's mail address and congratulate there. :-)
Kind regards
Ziko



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2013/7/14 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com

 ++ Welcome to the new chapter. W:MUY WIKI !
 On Jul 14, 2013 12:35 PM, Tonmoy Khan tonmoy...@gmail.com wrote:

  Congratulations WM Uruguay:)
 
  --
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  Treasurer, Wikimedia Bangladesh
 
  Sent from mobile
  On Jul 14, 2013 10:10 PM, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Dear all,
  
   It is my pleasure to bring to your attention the Board's latest
  resolution
   that recognizes Wikimedia Uruguay as the newest Wikimedia chapter:
  
  
 
 http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Uruguay
  
   Please welcome them to the Wikimedia family with open arms and wish
 them
   success in furthering our mission in Uruguay!
  
   Best regards,
  
   Bence Damokos,
   Chair, Affiliations Committee
  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread Victor Grigas
This is all a style/composition question - 

Do we want to aim for uniform portraits on the staff page or not?


On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening of
 this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a
 photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's fingers.
 --Teles
 
 
 [1] - https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg
 Its not fine. Look at the colour blotching under the arm. I wouldn't expect
 that from the 5DII even at ISO 640. Looks like its been pushed a bit too
 far in post. That said looking at Matthew 's other photos the camera seems
 to be struggling to get the light levels right when that EF 100mm f/2.8L
 Macro lens is used. Not sure why though since thats a pretty good lens
 camera combination. Perhaps if the WMF is going to insist on taking photos
 of people indoors under ambient light they should get him a EF 85 mm f/1.2L
 II.
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-14 Thread Richard Symonds
I'd say that yes, you want uniform pictures, with a uniform idea behind
them. For example, all professional, or all slightly informal, or all
crazy. It doesn't matter so much about tattoos, but they need to all have
the same feel or the page just feels off...

At the moment it does look a bit odd from an external perspective when one
staff member has a different style of profile picture to everyone else. If
Brandon's picture was a little more focussed on his face rather than his
arm, then I don't think anyone would have a huge problem - except that
you'd then probably need to change other staff portraits to be informal (or
allow staff to pick which ones they want to have), and the changing (and
the approval and monitoring of picture changes to ensure that no-one does
something stupid) could increase your workload. Who gets the final say in
whether a picture is appropriate? Do you need a staff photo policy? Can I
change other people's photos if I'm their friend? Could we change Sue's for
a laugh on April 1? What happens if a staff member has a photo taken
without a shirt on, or with a potentially offensive tattoo, or an NRA (or a
political) logo on their baseball cap or shirt? Do we want to run the risk
of alienating and upsetting people over such a small thing as a staff
photo? How often do donors (including major gifts) see the page? Will it
affect them?

There's nothing wrong with a bit of style and a few changes - even lively
changes - it's good to make staff appear more like 'normal people'. But it
needs a bit of thought behind the scenes to make sure that there's no
disruption as a result, and that everyone knows that they can change their
picture if they wish. That said, we've got a community with very exacting
standards, and even small changes can lead to forty emails on a mailing
list quite easily... which is a bit disruptive, regardless of whether the
changes are good or bad!

(I also realise that I have written three paragraphs about this issue,
which is about the same length as the reports I write at work...)

Yours etc.,


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On 14 July 2013 23:37, Victor Grigas vgri...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 This is all a style/composition question -

 Do we want to aim for uniform portraits on the staff page or not?


 On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 14 July 2013 00:44, Lucas Teles salvadore...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Is that [1] the photo? I was expecting something worse per the opening
 of
  this discussion. It seems to be fine for me (in a manly way of saying a
  photo of another man is fine), expect for the removal of Brandon's
 fingers.
  --Teles
 
 
  [1] -
 https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Brandon_Harris_courage.jpg
  Its not fine. Look at the colour blotching under the arm. I wouldn't
 expect
  that from the 5DII even at ISO 640. Looks like its been pushed a bit too
  far in post. That said looking at Matthew 's other photos the camera
 seems
  to be struggling to get the light levels right when that EF 100mm f/2.8L
  Macro lens is used. Not sure why though since thats a pretty good lens
  camera combination. Perhaps if the WMF is going to insist on taking
 photos
  of people indoors under ambient light they should get him a EF 85 mm
 f/1.2L
  II.
 
  --
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