Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.01.2014 23:57, Risker wrote: I dunno, guys. I certainly would take a talk page message over a mechanical thank any day of the week. More particularly, I notice a significant trend in using thank notifications to express agreement with people without having to actually say yeah, I agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 January 2014 14:42, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: What does indeed make a difference and creates a sense of human interaction is custom messaging over templated messaging. It's the human interaction bit. I was *delighted* when I got a thank you for an edit, and really

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 14.01.2014 15:53, David Gerard wrote: On 14 January 2014 14:42, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: What does indeed make a difference and creates a sense of human interaction is custom messaging over templated messaging. It's the human interaction bit. I was *delighted* when I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 13 January 2014 20:32, Philippe Beaudette pbeaude...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On Jan 13, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: we're getting almost 3,000 thanks actions a day, every day It would be interesting to know if that impacted the number of barnstars

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Barnstars mostly use a set of templates, right? (At least, the 80% case). We could ballpark it fairly effectively by checking for that set, no? pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | :

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A Multimedia Vision for 2016

2014-01-14 Thread Fabrice Florin
Dear Gerard, Thank you so much for your kind words about the proposed Multimedia Vision for Wikimedia sites by 2016. (1) I am glad that our first user stories resonate with you. They intentionally focus on ways that our community may interact through multimedia -- and we view these types of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Oliver Keyes
Yes, but what you'd then have to do is either go through the database dumps or hit the API and check individual diffs. Database-stored information on templates is where are those templates linked from, not and when were those links added (unless something has changed relatively recently) On 14

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 01/14/2014 02:18 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote: Database-stored information on templates is where are those templates linked from, not and when were those links added (unless something has changed relatively recently) And even then that'd give dubious results. Some talk page get archived

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Oliver Keyes
There is inherent humour in being unable to test the comparative efficacy of a technological whizbang due to the lack of sufficiently standardised technological whizbangs ;p. On 14 January 2014 11:32, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 01/14/2014 02:18 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.orgwrote: Add to this the complexity that several barnstars are subst:ed rather than transcluded -- but not all -- and you end up with a completely intractable problem. Bah humbug. *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Oliver Keyes, 14/01/2014 20:36: There is inherent humour in being unable to test the comparative efficacy of a technological whizbang due to the lack of sufficiently standardised technological whizbangs ;p. I'd rather call is a systemic bias which makes us favor standardised technological

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.orgwrote: Add to this the complexity that several barnstars are subst:ed rather than transcluded -- but not all -- and you end up with a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Oliver Keyes
So you'd rather measure effectiveness through...the feeling in your water? On 14 January 2014 12:29, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Oliver Keyes, 14/01/2014 20:36: There is inherent humour in being unable to test the comparative efficacy of a technological whizbang due to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 January 2014 21:20, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 14 January 2014 12:29, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: I'd rather call is a systemic bias which makes us favor standardised technological whizbangs just because we can measure them rather than for an actual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Oliver Keyes
Aha. I totally agree with that, then, but I don't think it's the motivation for this feature. On 14 January 2014 13:28, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 January 2014 21:20, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 14 January 2014 12:29, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 01/14/2014 04:07 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that they still achieved a good approximation. I'd wager that what they have gotten might be a poor sample; there is certainly a correlation between being a power/advanced user and more intricate talk page