Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

[Chris Keating]

Just to follow this up, we in the Roles and Responsibilities working group
have now supplemented our recommendations with three potential future
structural models for the Wikimedia movement. (These have were being worked
on still on in the light of other feedback on Thursday, hence them not
being published at the same time as our recommendations.)

While comments and questions are welcome on Meta, we have created a survey
for each model to help gather granular feedback on the strengths and
weaknesses of each and that is our preferred method of getting detailed
comments.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Roles_%26_Responsibilities/Recommendations


Thanks,

Chris Keating
User:The Land

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 7:37 PM Nicole Ebber 
wrote:

> Dear fellow Wikimedians,
>
> They’re here! [1] We are delighted to announce the first round of
> draft recommendations for structural change within our movement have
> been published. The recommendations have been developed by the nine
> Wikimedia 2030 working groups and are a key tool to help us build the
> future of our movement.
>
> Working group members have been working tirelessly for a year to
> research the movement, analyze community input shared via community
> conversations, and gain insight into external trends. A huge thank you
> to each and every member for helping us reach this key milestone.
>
> The draft recommendations are a first look at ways we can adapt our
> movement’s structures to help us advance in our strategic direction.
> They are the starting point for conversations about what kind of
> future we want to create together.
>
> The recommendations are not final. In order to get them to that stage,
> your input is needed! We would like to hear from you all what these
> changes would mean for you in your local or thematic context, what do
> you like about them, and where you potentially see any red flags. And
> of course, always critically question whether these recommendations
> support the strategic direction.
>
> There are a few ways to do this:
> * Read through the recommendations online and provide your input
> directly on Meta. [2]
> * If you will be at Wikimania, join us in the Wikimedia 2030 space. [3]
> * Attend a Strategy Salon hosted by an affiliate where you live. [4]
> * Reach out to a Strategy Liaison in your language to share feedback,
> or lead a conversation of your own. [5]
>
> Over the next month, working groups will take the input they receive
> into the recommendations, alongside external advice and research, and
> use it to refine and finalize them. Share your views, and help shape
> what Wikimedia will look like in 2030 and beyond.
>
> If you have any questions or feedback, please feel free to get in touch.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Nicole
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
> [3] https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Wikimedia_2030
> [4]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Strategy_Salons
> [5]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/People/Community_Strategy_Liaisons
>
> --
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> Program Manager Wikimedia 2030 Movement Strategy
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

[Ilario valdelli]

Hi Nicole,

I suggest also to harmonize a little bit the reccomandations of the 
working groups too.


I had a quick reading and I found several conflictual points among the 
different working groups.


An example is the technology working group where the first 
reccomandation is about a decentralization and I suppose about a 
"strong" decentralization where everyone can contribute to the vision, 
while the Resource Allocation reports the concept of hubs in several 
points of their reccomandations.


In this case to decentralize from one point to another point a 
competence doesn't mean "decentralization" but it's "delocalization". 
Basically it remains a central point of competence delocated 
geographically but basically a central point (so the opposite of 
decentralization).


This is an example but there are several ones and the time is short to 
comment.


Kind regards


On 09/08/2019 20:36, Nicole Ebber wrote:


Over the next month, working groups will take the input they receive
into the recommendations, alongside external advice and research, and
use it to refine and finalize them. Share your views, and help shape
what Wikimedia will look like in 2030 and beyond.

If you have any questions or feedback, please feel free to get in touch.

Best wishes,

Nicole

[1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
[2] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommendations
[3] https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Wikimedia_2030
[4] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Community_Conversations/Strategy_Salons
[5] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/People/Community_Strategy_Liaisons



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[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Diversity Working Group Recommendation 9 - proposal to split in two: "Terms of Use update" and "Licensing Policy update"

[Aron Manning]

This draft resulted in the longest talk page
,
and the most passionate feedback. The responses mostly address the
Licensing Policy update, that turned out to be a very heavy topic, while
the Terms of Use update is overlooked.
I think both are equally important, but raise very different concerns and
technical questions. The community feedback would be more focused, if these
two were split into their own recommendations.

I suggest the Terms of Use update be split into recommendation 14 with the
next iteration, so the community can reflect on that topic as well.

It would be also helpful to add cross-references to the strongly
related Recommendation
# 1: Code of Conduct
,
and Community Health Recommendation #1


I'm posting this here, as it seems more likely that it reaches WG members.

Aron

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

[Aron Manning]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 06:42, Leila Zia  wrote:

> * Re Commons or not is something we should discuss in the talk pages.
>
Peter had some really good points early on on this thread about the 3
> different options available.
>

And his option of a dedicated project for non-free content has been
already proposed
in 2015  and 2018
, proposed name
*NonFreeWiki */ *FairUseWiki */ *UnCommons */ etc.
Discuss at: recommendation talk page section


I was pretty surprised this was not mentioned in the recommendation. That
proposal answers many questions, missing from the current recommendation.

Aron
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The timeline of the Wikimedia strategy: please reconsider!

[Aron Manning]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 22:07, Jeff Hawke  wrote:

> "Open community input will be accepted until September 15, after which
> working groups will refine and finalize their work using movement input as
>

I expect the drafts to be revised for new rounds of feedback within that
timeframe. In one week the community gathered information fundamental to
these drafts, but missing from the first iteration. In an agile environment
this can be incorporated into the drafts in a few days, and even in
wikipedian time 1-2 weeks could be enough to publish the next iteration,
and keep the conversation alive.
I hope after Wikimania the WG members will be able to dedicate time for
this, otherwise the tight timeline is not possible. Ideally the most
popular drafts would be updated weekly, or more often, answering some
feedback in each iteration, not necessarily all of it.

Aron


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The timeline of the Wikimedia strategy: please reconsider!

[Ad Huikeshoven]

To be more precise: on September 15 Working Group members, the Board of
Trustees Members, and all Chiefs of the Foundation will convene in Tunis
for a sprint to discuss these materials.

The working groups will have a lot of work to do to come up with something
that convinces decision makers to embrace recommendation to change anything
from the current status quo.

From participants at Wikimania I sense buy in for a number of more or less
radical changes. The working groups have to be very clear and very specific
which changes they want and why.

Regards,

Ad
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