Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread effe iets anders
The question is however as well: how many open licensed content creators would switch to NC if they were aware that this would be 'good enough' for Wikipedia - even if that means in reality only English Wikipedia (but who cares about other languages) and without actually allowing to build on top

[Wikimedia-l] Affiliations Committee 2020 Mid-Term Election results

2020-07-12 Thread Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
Subject line: Affiliations Committee 2020 Mid-Term Election results Dear everyone, We are happy to share that Başak Tosun, Bunty Avieson, Jeffery Keefer, Ravan Al-Taie, and Suyash Dwivedi are new members who have been appointed to the Affiliations Committee, while Camelia Boban has been

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
People are not conscious of NC module also because we don't take a clear approach about it. Centralizing the storage of NC files is probably one of the clear step to make the community and third parties more conscious. One of the causes of the current confusion is precisely because we treat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
look, I have spoken with dozen of artists so far, the missing opportunity in almost zero. The cost of the confusion and the waste of time is still a lot. I have stopped even trying, I simply say immediately "of course you would like to give NC, you can't, because there are strong ideological

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread WereSpielChequers
Doc James raised the issue of pragmatism v idealism and that essay is indeed rather focussed on the idealistic arguments against NC. EmuFarmers has touched on the pragmatic side of the debate, and I think it worth reminding ourselves about that dimension as well. So here are some pragmatic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Thank you for the link, Erik, I am going to read Pete Forsyth‘s text carefully. My thinking about the module was influenced by some WMD publications, by Till Kreutzer and also this one: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Free_Knowledge_thanks_to_Creative_Commons_Licenses.pdf So I learned

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New essay on the ambiguity of NC licenses

2020-07-12 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:20 PM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Are we really sure he would have done something in any case if we did not > provide such options? > It's pretty hard to be sure about the hypothetical behavior of individuals.