[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Samuel Klein
True, most Projects would be more used and known if they were [re-]integrated into a single smoothly-contoured site, domain, and nested namespace network that hides the unnecessary divisions between Separate Mediawiki Housings [SMH]. We could make this quite beautiful, though it would need some

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Steven Walling
We don’t really need to test the idea that people want to ask factual questions in natural language. The question is: what’s the best way to serve people who want to ask a normal human question and get an answer? The definitive truth is that people want to search this way in the same place they

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Risker
I note that there are discussions going on in the Technology stream that very definitely touch on this topic. The first I noticed is a discussion on Wikitech-L entitled "Word embeddings / vector search". The second one is a discussion point on this week's Tech News: There is a recently formed

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Adam Sobieski
I would share that I don't fully understand the current WMF procedure for project proposals. I noticed an April 14 email in this mailing list about forming a new taskforce on these topics

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread James Heilman
Setting up a project outside the WMF would be much easier to start with. One can then trial the idea and if successful the movement may then be willing to have the WMF take it on. WikiVoyage started outside the WMF by a small group in Germany (after they split from WikiTravel). They had an active

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Could the broad use of ChatGPT mean more accesses to Wikipedia?

2023-05-15 Thread Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga
There's yet another option: a simple Google search algorithm change can promote or hide a language from the results. We have seen it at Basque (and Catalan) Wikipedias, after they dediced to show the Spanish language result even if you search in Basque and the article exists. As we can't know

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Risker
My plate is full at the moment, and project creation is not a specific interest of mine. I hope that Adam does not see things as demotivating; creating a new project type *should* be a big challenge. I do think that those standards need to be significantly revised. They were all written at a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Ilario valdelli
I think that here the proposal is to have a new sister project (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_projects). There is a long list: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects The concept behind a new sister project is the capacity to build a community and an

[Wikimedia-l] Don’t miss out! Closing Event_Africa Environment Wiki Focus 2023

2023-05-15 Thread Nonny Ntahla
Dear Wikimedians Great job everyone, we did it! We are pleased to share that we have achieved our shared objective of contributing content related to Africa’s Climate to the Wikimedia projects

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Risker
Sohow much does it cost to develop and run an entirely new and different type of project? Who develops it? How much would the hosting cost on an ongoing basis? Is this project more important and more needed than an existing project type? These aren't small questions; they are in fact the

[Wikimedia-l] Launch of the Africa Day Campaign 2023

2023-05-15 Thread Eugene Masiku
Hello Wikimedians, You are invited to the official launch of the Africa Day Campaign 2023 this Thursday!! In line with the African Union Day theme that seeks to document Africa’s stories to increase the visibility of stories around Africa’s free trade, the African Knowledge Initiative (AKI)

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Ilario Valdelli
I like the idea. Sometimes people need a simple answer. At the moment to receive an answer from Wikipedia for some articles people need a Phd. A solution like that can give a smart and quick and understable answer. Kind regards On Mon, 15 May 2023, 11:48 Adam Sobieski, wrote: > Wikimedia, >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Publicpolicy] How the UK Online Safety Bill might impact Wikimedia

2023-05-15 Thread Lauren Worden
Can we have a "San Francisco Tea Party" telling the UK government that Wikimedia projects would rather block access to the United Kingdom than comply with their misguided requirements? > -- Forwarded message - > From: > Date: Mon, May 15, 2023, 2:56 AM > Subject: [Publicpolicy]

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Adam Sobieski
Thank you for the feedback thus far. It appears that there are different types of questions and answers with respect to their cacheability. Some seem to be highly cacheable, such as static factual questions, some seem to be not cacheable at all, e.g., instantaneous weather conditions, and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Could the broad use of ChatGPT mean more accesses to Wikipedia?

2023-05-15 Thread Anders Wennersten
Thanks Ziko for your reply, which very much echo my own worry. If you try the ChatGPTt with the question amended with "Include a link to Wikipedia" you find the answer is better for questioner and makes a nice link to Wikipedia. So if we are worried over your option A, we could enter 10

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Could the broad use of ChatGPT mean more accesses to Wikipedia?

2023-05-15 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear Anders, Thank you for your interesting question - we have been wondering for some time what AI will mean for the future of the (entire) Wikimedia movement. Whether your observation is correct is also something I can only speculate about. Possibly such a growth is rather a sign of transition.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Lauren Worden
Really? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WNBA_Finals=history On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 3:19 AM Joseph Fox wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 11:05, Lauren Worden wrote: >> >> > user-editable cache of multimodal answers >> >> Apologies, but that's a terrible idea. Who wants to edit

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Joseph Fox
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 11:05, Lauren Worden wrote: > > user-editable cache of multimodal answers > > Apologies, but that's a terrible idea. Who wants to edit keeping up to > date, for example, "teams currently in the playoffs"? I haven’t much comment on the proposal but … Wikipedians are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Lauren Worden
> user-editable cache of multimodal answers Apologies, but that's a terrible idea. Who wants to edit keeping up to date, for example, "teams currently in the playoffs"? In any case, I feel obligated to share this with the list: https://www.anthropic.com/index/100k-context-windows Anthropic

[Wikimedia-l] Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Adam Sobieski
Wikimedia, Per the recent interest in and discussions about artificial intelligence in this mailing list, I am pleased to indicate the Wikianswers project proposal. The proposal describes some approaches for integrating these technologies (e.g., multimodal dialogue systems, chatbots, and

[Wikimedia-l] Could the broad use of ChatGPT mean more accesses to Wikipedia?

2023-05-15 Thread Anders Wennersten
The number of accesses to the Wikipedias of de, nl and sw all show a small increase in March and April compared with 2022 after a half big decrease in January and February. Could this be related to the broad introduction and use of ChatGPT at the same time period? ChatGPT gives an excellent