Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Afripedia, a project to help the development of Wikipedia in French-speaking Africa

[Hubert]

wow, really fantastic! Sounds like pioneer-work!

hubertl

Am 20.06.2012 22:43, schrieb Adrienne Alix:
> [Apologize for cross posting... ]
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Wikimedia France is very happy to announce a great new project :
> 
> A partnership has been formalized on last Friday between Wikimédia
> France, the Institut Français
>  (the network of
> the french cultural institutes in the world) and the Agence
> Universitaire de la Francophonie
> 
> (Association of Universities of the Francophonie) to support a common
> program about the development of Wikipedia in French-speaking Africa:
> this project is called "Afripedia".
> 
> Afripedia is a project to support the "digital development" of Africa.
> While the most part of the contributions and contributors on Wikipedia
> are from the North, we want to make easier the offline reading of
> Wikipedia and the production of content about Africa and made by African
> contributors. The project entails projected workshops to help use the
> encyclopedia and produce content on the Wikimedia projects.
> 
> Based on the offline technologies developped by Kiwix
>  (and helped by Kiwix), the
> project will involve several phases:
> 
> 1/ software development to produce offline versions of Wikipedia (and
> probably other Wikimedia projects like Wiktionary) regularly and easily,
> and then a download solution to get these offline versions easier, with
> no technical ability needed.
> 
> 2/ Installation of these offline versions on flash drives, plugged on
> little computers extremely energy-efficient, without screen or keyboard.
> The computer spreads the content of the flash drive (=Wikipedia) with a
> wireless connection without internet (the content of the flash drive is
> available just by connecting to this wifi) [see [[Plug computer
> ]]
> 
> 3/ Installation of the computers and flash drives and training of
> students and professors on the "Digital campus of Francophonie", a
> network of digital points supported by the Association of Universities
> of the Francophonie, to support the dissemination of Wikipedia content
> without the issues of irregular access to internet. One plug (with or
> without repeater) can provide Wikipedia for dozens of students !
> 
> 4/ Training in contribution on Wikipedia (in French and local languages)
> 
> 5/ After a first implementation (autumn 2012) in 20 points in 15
> countries of West Africa, we will assess the project and extend it over
> a larger scale for 2013, if the results are good.
> 
> 
> As it is one of our missions, we consider producing free knowledge in
> French and in local languages and making it accesible in territories
> developping access to digital technology but having no active Wikimedia
> community yet, to be essential. So we will also support the forming of
> contributors communities in these countries.
> 
> See also (in french) http://www.wikimedia.fr/afripedia
> 
> ==
> Â 
> The Institut Français is the operator for the French Ministry of
> Foreign Affairs in charge of the cultural action in foreign countries.
> Through its French Language Department, the Institut Français works
> towards the attractivity and spreading of French language across the
> world. It particularly takes care of the development of the teaching of
> French language and culture in secondary school and in universities.
> http://www.institutfrancais.com/
> Â 
> The Agence universitaire de la Francophonie (Association of Universities
> of the Francophonie) groups 786 higher education and research
> institutions from 98 countries on the five continents, using French
> language as a language for teaching and research. Its mission is to
> contribute to the solidarity between French-speaking higher education
> establishments and to the development of a scientific arena in French,
> respecting the cultures and languages diversity.
> http://www.auf.org/
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Adrienne Charmet-Alix
> Directrice des programmes - Wikimedia France
> Twitter : @AdrienneAlix
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> 07.62.92.42.01
> http://www.wikimedia.fr
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing the Fellowship News

[Hubert]

I can´t see really a difference between Wikipedian in residence and
WMF-Fellowships. Except the financial source: WMF-founded vs.
Chapter-founded.

The goals are the almost the same.

What happens with Wikipedian in residence which will not get any
salaries? Will this be a third class? Are they maybe unofficial?

h.

Am 09.07.2012 13:43, schrieb Maggie Dennis:
> I haven't spoken to Siko about this at all (first I'm hearing about it),
> but I imagine, Richard, that it will focus on the work being done on
> fellowships by WMF Fellows.
> 
> Lodewijk, I think it would be great to have a newsletter about the cool
> things people are doing around the Wiki World. :) If somebody chooses to
> put something like that together, surely having material to incorporate
> about Fellows would be useful? The content is freely licensed and can be
> reused (and modified) like other material on the projects under the same
> terms.
> 
> Maggie
> 
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Lodewijk wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> while it is great that you do this responsibly, I am indeed also wondering
>> how we can make this a worth while read. Because while it is a nice
>> program, there are many other people around Wiki World doing similarly cool
>> things (no offence) - as are "real" staff members. By splitting this off in
>> a seperate news section (as we have been splitting off a lot) I'm afraid
>> you might be putting the news actually on a bigger distance than you would
>> otherwise.
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> 2012/7/6 Richard Symonds 
>>
>>> Thanks Siko!
>>>
>>> Could you explain what exactly this covers? Teahouse, translations, small
>>> Wikis and dispute resolution is a very wide net - and presumably it will
>>> change according to which fellows are 'employed' at the time it's
>> written.
>>> Is there an overarching theme?
>>>
>>> Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK
>>> On Jul 6, 2012 11:54 PM, "Siko Bouterse" 
>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,
 I am pleased to announce that the first monthly edition of the
>> Fellowship
 News is now available on Meta-Wiki!

 Come learn what the Wikimedia Fellows have been working on in June:
 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_News

 Projects covered in this edition include:
 *Dispute Resolution
 *Gender Gap
 *Help Pages Redesign
 *Small Wiki Editor Engagement
 *Teahouse
 *Translations

 --
 Siko Bouterse
 Head of Community Fellowships
 Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

 sboute...@wikimedia.org



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] User retention statistics?

[Hubert]

Fastily is still active on Commons.

h

Am 19.04.2012 01:40, schrieb Robert Rohde:
> PS. This story was triggered by Fastily's retirement.  He has 46000
> edits on enwiki, and only about 620 editors have reached that plateau.
>  Of these, 90% are still active.  So such retirements are relatively
> rare.  Personally, I hope he decides to come back after taking some
> time to relax and recharge.  It seems to be the case that many such
> declared retirements aren't really permanent.
> 
> -Robert Rohde
> 
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Robert Rohde  wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>
>>> 1. What is the average lifetime of a Wikipedia editor (for instance the one
>>> with at leat 1000 contributions)? I recollect smth about two years, but I am
>>> pretty sure I have never seen any research on this. How does it depend on
>>> the number of contributions?
>>
>> For enwiki, using data from last August:
>>
>> 28243 users have at least 1000 edits (all namespaces).
>>
>> Of these, 9898 had not edited in the six months before the end of the data 
>> set.
>>
>> So about 65% of the major editors are still active, at least occasionally.
>>
>> The mean wiki-lifetime for the 28243 major users was 49.9 months.
>>
>> For the 9898 users who were not recently active, the mean
>> wiki-lifetime was 35.6 months.
>>
>>
>> Further, there are 4685 users with at least 1 edits, and of these,
>> all but 914 were still active in the last 6 months of the data set.
>> So 80% of the editors at the very high end are still active (at least
>> occasionally).  The mean wiki-lifetime on the total group is 60.5
>> months, and the departed group is 42.6 months.
>>
>>
>> Incidentally, the mean account age of individuals editing article
>> space is now over 3 years for enwiki.  A lot of the work is being by
>> the relative old-timers.  By the same token though, people who have
>> ever made it to 1000 edits are more likely than not to still be active
>> today.
>>
>> -Robert Rohde
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

[Hubert Laska]

With all due respect, Gerard, not the bearer ofthe message, Tomas, is 
the problem, the problem arises where there are people who can make 
decisions with far-reaching consequences - and be selected for it - but 
then assume one for me unacceptable position against that group whose 
services are the basis for their own position.


Fuck the Community, who cares, was not the only thing, much worse for me 
is the meaning, that free knowledge is easier to buy than to get by 
edits and edits.


Of whose money? By those who make one edit after the other? Taking 
photos, one after another and upload them?


I know Steffen good enough and I know, that he is able to tell apart 
explanations which happens within an special group dynamic process. If 
this has occured, he would not have written this in his blog.


h
Am 07.04.2014 12:52, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:

Hoi,
What is it that you intend to do. Hang them and, hang them high??

You already know that it was in a very emotional moment ...

What is your objective? What do you expect as a result and how will that be
in everyone's benefit??
Thanks,
  Gerard


On 7 April 2014 12:16, Tomasz W. Kozlowski  wrote:


Ziko van Dijk wrote


  I think that a single quote by a unnamed "female Wikimedian", said in

public or in private, is a very small basis for any substantiate
criticism...


Thanks to Chris e-mail's, we now know that the comment was made during a
public session (though I can't find the relevant section in the minutes on
Meta).

That the identity of the person is currently unknown is due to the fact
that it has not been revealed by other participants in that workshop; I'm
sure Chris, and Steffen, and other people know very well who that person is.

I'm used to the secrecy, but I find it deeply disturbing that such a
comment could have been made during a public workshop "in passing";
however, it would fit perfectly in the alleged divisions between some
chapters and their respective communities.

Where the idea that a single entity (here: a chapter) knows better what's
best for a community than the community does itself come from, I'm not sure.


 Tomasz

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

[Hubert Laska]

Hi Milos, at the same time when you are concerned about the collection / 
preservation of thousands of languages, I will briefly introduce a 
project that currently takes place in Austria together with the Austrian 
Academy of Sciences. This project has the same goal direction, which you 
mention, even if we might go another way. Our way is at first the 
acquisition of languages, micro languages​​, language varieties and 
dialects.


The basis of this work it will be, by a software (which has yet to be 
made​ ​) to capture the regional characteristics of the language. 
written as a word, as a phrase, and then of course the regional 
peculiarities in pronunciation, using and producing audio files. 
Subsequently, there will be regional wikis to bring on a simple level, 
people to represent their knowledge. This is important especially in the 
german Wikipedia, because now it is almost impossible to enter de:WP as 
a freshman. The claims are completely covered, we lose an enormous 
number of authors and win hardly newones.


In the meantime, it is already partially so that even the articles are 
no longer readable because they just follow an off-hook academic claim, 
not the demands of most of our readers.


You are speaking about languages, Milos​ ​, of which you accept that it 
is as a official standard language with an appropriate written version. 
Here you will (and we will) encounter the first boundaries.


The most important part for me of your writing is that you're worried 
about the fact that we constantly lose authors. So you're absolutely 
right. In our projects we often ignore the fact that knowledge is not 
necessarily a knowledge of the educated class alone, we find "knowledge" 
even in places where you least expect it. Currently it is so that access 
to Wikipedia, especially in the developed versions with> 100,000 
articles, already excludes many people to participate. The challenge is 
simply too difficult.


Language does not stand alonefor itself, language is strongly tied to 
the culture. And this culture is often - I am referring to the 
German-language Wikipedia - already in a kind of elitist form of us even 
reproduced and filtered.


But why should a language and word-collecting software make it possible 
to attract new authors and to enable new areas of knowledge acquisition? 
By being brave and just go new ways!Wikipedia is 13 years old and has 
not changed in its basic concept. But this basic concept is, in my view, 
in many ways no more purposeful in order to meet the requirements for 
different classes of readers and writers.


Though I know that language does not stands on its own, so I also know 
that culture is not just a part of everyday life of humans, the life is 
the culture itself. But this isoften perceived by the elitists not as 
culture but as folklore. Just as we perceive dialects as a language of 
the subordinate social classes and as such also denote such languages ​ 
as "dialects"so that the apparent superiority of a so-called high-level 
language can be brought to the fore.


When we talk about knowledge, then we always talk about written 
knowledge in a standardized form.


However, we lose a large part of the knowledge by the fact that our 
culture is changing , our tools, our traditional professions. But that 
also disappears the diversity of our culture.


If you look at the tools of a cobbler, then you will find there a piece 
of steel which is called in german Kneip. It is for the shoemaker, the 
most important of all tools in addition to the hammer. Today we no 
longer findshoemakers. Until a few years ago there were shoemakers in 
every street, in every small town. Probably in serbia or Belgrade, you 
will find more than we have here in Vienna, Austria and Germany 
together. And because this piece of steel , Kneip, wich is so extremely 
efficient and above all extremely cheap, it was formerly in every 
private toolbox. Together with a grindstone .


Today it is called the Stanley knife, but it can not compete at least 
with the quality of Kneip. But we still have the word Kneip. And as long 
this word exists and people know what it means, as long this tool 
exists. If only in our consciousness. But when the word disappears , 
then the tool is finally gone. And thus also a part of our culture.


This is just a small example of how important it is to preserve the 
language in its diverse form.


The same applies to languages. Each language is significant because it 
is originated in and out of a very special cultural situation. If this 
culture could retain without influence from outside, eventually it will 
become a own language,because it is different from the more changing 
"main" language.


If you understand Yiddish - which is understood as a separate language - 
then you know about how people may have spoken German several hundred 
years ago. Although, of course, Yiddish has also evolved. And even the 
main spoken language in Vienna, wich is in parts inf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How Wikimedia could help languages to survive

[Hubert Laska]

Am 20.04.2014 08:38, schrieb geni:

On 20 April 2014 04:46, Milos Rancic  wrote:


I'd say that Scots Gaelic could be a good test (Wikimedia UK help
needed!). It's a language with ~70k of speakers and if it's possible
to achieve 100 active editors per month, we could say that it could
somehow work in other cases, as well.



Err they are about to have a referendum on independence

What do you want to say with that? That it is thus no longer necessary, 
gaelic to lead as an example? Wikipedia does´nt end at national borders!



Hubertl

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Non-renewal of Wikimedia UK fundraiser agreement

[Hubert Laska]

Am 21.05.2014 15:33, schrieb MZMcBride:
To that end, on the subject of outside observers and open letters: 
when writing such a letter, it's important to give context and err on 
the side of formality. I've never seen a professional letter begin 
with "Dear Sue" (no last name or contact information provided) and end 
with "Yours sincerely, Jon" (no last name or contact information 
provided). This isn't a huge deal, but it's perhaps indicative

MZMcBride

Dear Sir!

 ??? With all due respect, but what kind of bullshit is this??

sincerely H.


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