[Wikimedia-l] Re: A new Signpost issue is out

[Ali Kia]

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در تاریخ سه‌شنبه ۲۱ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳،‏ ۱۷:۲۳ Andreas Kolbe 
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> The Signpost – Volume 19, Issue 4 – 20 February 2023
> --
>
> News and notes: Terms of Use update, Steward elections, and Wikipedia back
> in Pakistan
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/News_and_notes
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/News_and_notes>
>
> In the media: Arbitrators open case request after article alleges
> Wikipedia "intentionally distorts" Holocaust coverage
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/In_the_media
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/In_the_media>
>
> Disinformation report: The "largest con in corporate history"?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Disinformation_report
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Disinformation_report>
>
> Essay: Machine-written articles: a new challenge for Wikipedia
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Essay
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Essay>
>
> Tips and tricks: All about writing at DYK
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Tips_and_tricks
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Tips_and_tricks>
>
> Featured content: Eden, lost.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Featured_content
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Featured_content>
>
> Gallery: Love is in the air
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Gallery
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Gallery>
>
> Traffic report: Superbowl? Pfft. Give me some Bollywood! Yours sincerely,
> the world
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Traffic_report
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Traffic_report>
>
> From the archives: 5, 10, and 15 years ago: Let's (not) delete the Main
> Page!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/From_the_archives
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/From_the_archives>
>
> Cobwebs: Editorial: The loss of the moral high ground
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Cobwebs
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Cobwebs>
>
> Humour: The RfA Candidate's Song
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Humour
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2023-02-20/Humour>
>
>
> Single-page view
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single
>
>
>
> https://facebook.com/wikisignpost
>
> https://twitter.com/wikisignpost
>
> https://wikis.world/@WikiSignpost
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Terms of Use Update Comment Period Open!

[Ali Kia]

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در تاریخ چهارشنبه ۲۲ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳،‏ ۰:۰۹ Jacob Rogers 
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> Hi everyone,
>
>
> I’m emailing to let you know that the Terms of Use comment period has
> opened! You can read more about it on Meta at the page about the ToU
> update
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Legal_department/2023_ToU_updates>.
> We’ve also released a blog discussing the changes, which you can find here
> <https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/02/21/were-revising-the-wikimedia-foundation-terms-of-use-heres-how-you-can-get-involved/>
> .
>
> The comment period will be open until April 24. We will also be having
> office hours for discussion on March 2, at 17:00 UTC to 18:30 UTC and April
> 4, at 17:00 UTC to 18:30 UTC. You can read more about them here
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Legal_department/2023_ToU_updates/Office_hours>.
> We look forward to hearing from you!
>
> Best,
>
> Jacob
>
> --
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

[Ali Kia]

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در تاریخ سه‌شنبه ۲۱ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳،‏ ۱:۳۰ Eduardo Testart 
نوشت:

> Hi again,
>
> Another potentially interesting podcast for some touching this matter
> (more or less):
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/podcasts/hard-fork-bing-ai-elon.html
>
> Linked to the ones I sent before on the other thread.
>
> If this is the new Napster revolution equivalent, yeah I know... back in
> the day, buckle up!
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 17:33 Jimmy Wales 
> wrote:
>
>> Speaking only for myself, out of curiosity, some real world examples
>> might be helpful here.   I don't have access to Bing's
>> version yet, but I do have access to chat.openai.com which is very
>> impressive but deeply flawed.
>>
>> I asked "Who is Kate Garvey?" (my wife, known a bit to the media, but not
>> famous) and the answer is weird and laughably bad with
>> more sentences false than true.   Among other silly things, it says that
>> she worked for Theresa May and was involved
>> with Brexit negotiations, which if you knew my wife's politics borders on
>> libel.  It also says she co-founded an organization
>> (which as far as I can tell, it just made up out of thin air) with Nick
>> Clegg's wife.  It's completely mad.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2023-02-20 09:34, Anders Wennersten wrote:
>>
>> > BIng with ChatGPT is now released by Micrsoft. > > And from what I
>> understand they use Wikipedia content considerably. > If you ask Who is A B
>> and A B is not widely known, the result is more > or less identical to the
>> content from the Wikipedia article (but > worse, as it "makes up" facts
>> that is incorrect). > > In a way I am glad to see Wikipedia is fully
>> relevant even in this > emerging AI-driven search world. But Google search
>> has ben careful to > always have a link to Wikipedia besides their made up
>> summary of > facts, which here it is missing (yet?). And for licences, they
>> are > all ignored. > > So if this is the future the number of accesses from
>> users to > Wikipedia will collapse, and also their willingness to donate...
>> (but > our content still a cornerstone for knowledge) > > Anders > > (I got
>> a lot of fact from an article in Swedish main newspaper by > their tech
>> editor. He started asking fact of himself, and when he > received facts
>> from his Wp article plus being credited to a book he > had noting to do
>> with, he started to try to tell/learn ChatGPT of > this error. The chatPGT
>> only got angry accusing the techeditor for > lying and in the end cut off
>> the conversation, as ChatGPT continued > to teat the techeditor as lyer and
>> vandal..). > ___ Wikimedia-l
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [African Wikimedians] Invitation to episode 21 of WikiAfrica Hour

[Ali Kia]

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در تاریخ سه‌شنبه ۲۱ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳،‏ ۰:۳۴ Festus Yemi 
نوشت:

> Hello,
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Festus
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 9:24 PM Ceslause Ogbonnaya <
> cesla...@wikiinafrica.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I wish to invite you to episode 21 of WIkiAfrica Hour, title *Commons:
>> Inside out, *where we shall be discussing Wikimedia Commons user
>> experience and many other interesting details, including how Wikimedia
>> Commons could be improved in order to fit into what the Wikimedia
>> Foundation wants to achieve through the 2030 Movement Strategy.
>>
>> Guests include:
>>
>>1. Wilson Oluoha
>> - Community
>>facilitator, Wiki Loves Africa 2023
>>2. Ziko Van Dijk  - Wiki
>>expert, Netherlands/Germany
>>3. Fiona Romeo  -
>>Member, 2022 Image Description Week
>> Working group
>>
>> Date: 24th February 2023
>> Time: 4pm UTC
>> Details: http://w.wiki/5dft 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ceslause Ogbonnaya
>> *Host, WIkiAfrica Hour*
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

[Ali Kia]

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در تاریخ پنجشنبه ۱۶ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳،‏ ۱۸:۱۸ The Cunctator 
نوشت:

> This is almost definitely the case.
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2023, 2:39 AM Ilario Valdelli  wrote:
>
>> And this is a problem.
>>
>> If ChatGPT uses open content, there is an infringement of license.
>>
>> Specifically the CC-by-sa if it uses Wikipedia. In this case the
>> attribution must be present.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> On Sun, 5 Feb 2023, 08:12 Peter Southwood, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> “Not citing sources is probably a conscious design choice, as citing
>>> sources would mean sharing the sources used to train the language models”
>>> This may be a choice that comes back to bite them. Without citing their
>>> sources, they are unreliable as a source for anything one does not know
>>> already. Someone will have a bad consequence from relying on the
>>> information and will sue the publisher. It will be interesting to see how
>>> they plan to weasel their way out of legal responsibility while retaining
>>> any credibility. My guess is there will be a requirement to state that the
>>> information is AI generated and of entirely unknown and untested
>>> reliability. How soon to the first class action, I wonder. Lots of money
>>> for the lawyers. Cheers, Peter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Subhashish [mailto:psubhash...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2023 06:37
>>> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List
>>> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, my point was not about Getty to begin with. Whether
>>> Getty would win and whether a big corporation should own such a large
>>> amount of visual content are questions outside this particular thread. It
>>> would certainly be interesting to see how things roll.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But AI/ML is way more than just looking. Training with large models is a
>>> very sophisticated and technical process. Data annotation among many other
>>> forms of labour are done by real people. the article I had linked earlier
>>> tells a lot about the real world consequences of AI. I'm certain AI/ML,
>>> especially when we're talking about language models like ChatGPT, are far
>>> from innocent looking/reading. For starters, derivative of works, except
>>> Public Domain ones, must attribute the authors. Any provision for
>>> attribution is deliberately removed from systems like ChatGPT and that only
>>> gives corporations like OpenAI a free ride sans accountability.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Subhashish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2023, 4:41 PM Todd Allen  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not so sure Getty's got a case, though. If the images are on the
>>> Web, is using them to train an AI something copyright would cover? That to
>>> me seems more equivalent to just looking at the images, and there's no
>>> copyright problem in going to Getty's site and just looking at a bunch of
>>> their pictures.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But it will be interesting to see how that one shakes out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 11:47 AM Subhashish 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not citing sources is probably a conscious design choice, as citing
>>> sources would mean sharing the sources used to train the language models.
>>> Getty has just sued Stability AI, alleging the use of 12 million
>>> photographs without permission or compensation. Imagine if Stability had to
>>> purchase from Getty through a legal process. For starters, Getty might not
>>> have agreed in the first place. Bulk-scaping publicly visible text in
>>> text-based AIs like ChatGPT would mean scraping text with copyright. But
>>> even reusing CC BY-SA content would require attribution. None of the AI
>>> platforms attributes their sources because they did not acquire content in
>>> legal and ethical ways [1]. Large language models won't be large and
>>> releases won't happen fast if they actually start acquiring content
>>> gradually from trustworthy sources. It took so many years for hundreds and
>>> thousands of Wikimedians to take Wikipedias in different languages to where
>>> they are for a reason.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/
>>>
>>>
>>> Subhashish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 1:06 PM Peter Southwood <
>>> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> From what I have seen the AIs are not great on citing sources. If they
>>> start citing reliable sources, their contributions can be verified, or not.
>>> If they produce verifiable, adequately sourced, well written information,
>>> are they a problem or a solution?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Gnangarra [mailto:gnanga...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* 04 February 2023 17:04
>>> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List
>>> *Subject:* [Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I see our biggest challenge is going to be detecting these AI tools
>>> adding content whether it's media or articles, along with identifying when
>>> they are in use by sources.  The failing of all new AI is not in its
>>> ability but in the 

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Results of the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines Vote

[Ali Kia]

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I am Iran Ali kia...
Thank you for your cooperation.

در تاریخ پنجشنبه ۱۶ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳،‏ ۷:۲۵  نوشت:

> مرحبًا، لست معترضًا على النتائج أو السياسة، بل العكس هو أمر جيد من الناحية
> التنظيمية ومكافحة التحرش والإساءة لكن لدي بعض الملاحظات حول العملية وليس
> على المحتوى:
> * نسبة المشاركة تعد ضئيلة جدًا مشاركة 3097 ناخباً  من بين 68745 ناخب مؤهل
> * عدد الموافقين على الإنفاذ 2,290 ناخب بمعنى  بمعنى أقل 4% من المجتمع
> العالمي النشط
> * استحوذت 3 مجتمعات فقط على أكثر من نصف الأصوات وهذه المجتمعات معظمها من
> أوربا الغربية وأمريكا الشمالية
> والتساؤل:
> * لماذا لا يتم ذكر هذه الإحصائيات وتحليلها واستنباط الأثر منها على
> المستقبل؟ وذلك لأن باقي المجتمعات لم تشارك أو كانت  مشاركتها   ضئيلة فهي
> غير مهتمة أو لم يكن هنا حملة قوية لجلب الاهتمام أو غيرها من الأمور مما قد
> يؤدي في الأخير عدم تبني السياسة أصلًا أو قد يتعاملون معها كقانون جبري
> * هل مشاركة المجتمعات القوية فقط  لا يُعزز المفهوم الغربي لطريقة الانفاذ؟
> * هل عدم اهتمام المجتمعات الأخرى نذير بوجود فجوات كبيرة وجب إصلاحها أو
> نستمر وكأن الأمر ليس ذو شأن؟
> تمنيت لو كانت قراءة عميقة نستخلص بها النتائج لتطويلا مستقبلي للحركة ودفعها
> للأمام بدل الجداول والأرقام التي قد لا يفقهها الكثير منا وقد تُعطي انطباعا
> خاطئا
> تحياتي
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Information about Wikimedia Hackathon 2023 satellite events

[Ali Kia]

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در تاریخ پنجشنبه ۱۶ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳،‏ ۵:۱۳ Srishti Sethi 
نوشت:

> Hello everyone,
>
> If you are interested in organizing or joining a hackathon event, but
> cannot attend the in-person Hackathon event in May in Athens, Greece, this
> email is for you!
>
> We encourage communities, user groups or chapters to organize satellite
> events connected to the in-person Hackathon. These events are to be
> organized autonomously and share the hackathon's purpose: bringing the
> global technical community together to connect, hack, run technical
> discussions, and explore new ideas.
>
> You can work with your wiki community to organize these events before,
> during, or after the main event to onboard newcomers to the technical
> aspects of the Wikimedia movement, hosting watch parties or meetups in your
> region to offer an alternative to people who cannot join the in-person
> event in Athens.
>
> To obtain help with organizing an event, you can apply for funds via the 
> *Rapid
> Grants* maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation. The deadline to apply for
> funding is *March 20*. When preparing for your event, you can reach out
> to the Hackathon organizing team for support with resources, designing the
> program, and guidance on getting involved in the global event.
>
> Learn more about the satellite events, funding process, and a checklist
> for organizing on the wiki page: <
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023/Satellite_events>
> [1]
>
> Cheers,
> Srishti
>
> On behalf of the Hackathon organizing team
>
> [1]
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023/Satellite_events
>
> *Srishti Sethi*
> Senior Developer Advocate
> Wikimedia Foundation 
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikimedia Research Showcase] February 15 at 9:30AM PT, 17:30 UTC

[Ali Kia]

Hi.
Thank you for your cooperation.

در تاریخ چهارشنبه ۱۵ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳،‏ ۲۰:۰۲ Emily Lescak 
نوشت:

> A reminder that this is starting in about an hour! We hope you can join us!
>
> Best,
> Emily
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2023 at 2:27 PM Emily Lescak  wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> The next Research Showcase will be livestreamed next Wednesday, February
>> 15 at 9:30AM PT / 17:30 UTC. The theme is The Free Knowledge Ecosystem.
>>
>> YouTube stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJmR-3lTac
>>
>> We welcome you to join the conversation on IRC at #wikimedia-research.
>> You can also watch our past research showcases:
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Showcase
>>
>> This month's presentations:
>>
>> The evolution of humanitarian mapping in OpenStreetMap (OSM) and how it
>> affects map completeness and inequalities in OSMBy *Benjamin Herfort,
>> Heidelberg Institute for Geoinformation Technology*Mapping efforts of
>> communities in OpenStreetMap (OSM) over the previous decade have created a
>> unique global geographic database, which is accessible to all with no
>> licensing costs. The collaborative maps of OSM have been used to support
>> humanitarian efforts around the world as well as to fill important data
>> gaps for implementing major development frameworks such as the Sustainable
>> Development Goals (SDGs). Besides the well-examined Global North - Global
>> South bias in OSM, the OSM data as of 2023 shows a much more spatially
>> diverse spread pattern than previously considered, which was shaped by
>> regional, socio-economic and demographic factors across several scales.
>> Humanitarian mapping efforts of the previous decade have already made OSM
>> more inclusive, contributing to diversify and expand the spatial footprint
>> of the areas mapped. However, methods to quantify and account for the
>> remaining biases in OSM’s coverage are needed so that researchers and
>> practitioners will be able to draw the right conclusions, e .g. about
>> progress towards the SDGs in cities.
>>
>>
>> Dataset reuseː Toward translating principles to practiceBy *Laura
>> Koesten, University of Vienna*The web provides access to millions of
>> datasets. These data can have additional impact when used beyond the
>> context for which they were originally created. But using a dataset beyond
>> the context in which it originated remains challenging. Simply making data
>> available does not mean it will be or can be easily used by others. At the
>> same time, we have little empirical insight into what makes a dataset
>> reusable and which of the existing guidelines and frameworks have an
>> impact.In this talk, I will discuss our research on what makes data
>> reusable in practice. This is informed by a synthesis of literature on the
>> topic, our studies on how people evaluate and make sense of data, and a
>> case study on datasets on GitHub. In the case study, we describe a corpus
>> of more than 1.4 million data files from over 65,000 repositories. Building
>> on reuse features from the literature, we use GitHub’s engagement metrics
>> as proxies for dataset reuse and devise an initial model, using deep neural
>> networks, to predict a dataset’s reusability. This demonstrates the
>> practical gap between principles and actionable insights that might allow
>> data publishers and tool designers to implement functionalities that
>> facilitate reuse.
>> We hope you can join us!
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Emily
>>
>>
>> --
>> Emily Lescak (she / her)
>> Senior Research Community Officer
>> The Wikimedia Foundation
>>
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