Re: [Wikimedia-l] If you are passionate about world hunger, sustainability and global issues please read this

2013-06-17 Thread Deryck Chan
Wouldn't this fall within the scope of [[WP:Outlines]] already, and therefore doesn't need its sister project? Future developments of Wikidata will make it even easier for such articles on Wikipedia to be updated. On 17 June 2013 19:56, Alex Peek wrote: Homepage:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] SOPA related bill in Taiwan

2013-06-04 Thread Deryck Chan
So will there be a Wikipedia blackout? PS. June 4 is the perfect date for such protests :) On 3 June 2013 23:42, Tilman Bayer wrote: The EFF reports that this announcement by Taiwanese Wikimedians does appear to have had an effect:

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimania-l] Proposed prohibition of local uploads and deletion of non-free-licence working documents of Wikimedia events

2013-06-03 Thread Deryck Chan
Following this discussion up, I've proposed an exemption doctrine policy for Meta: On 29 May 2013 17:24, Nathan wrote: Crossed to Wikimedia-l, see Deryck's e-mail below. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Deryck Chan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage logo

2013-06-02 Thread Deryck Chan
MZM, This time misses the point of risk management - it's all probabilistic rather than deterministic. It is totally reasonable for WMF to have judged that the differences between the two logos are large enough that a trademark claim is sufficiently *unlikely* to happen. But outliers do occur and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Approval of Wikimedians of Nepal user group

2013-05-30 Thread Deryck Chan
Congratulations Ganesh and the Nepal team! Are there plans to move on and transition to an incorporated Wikimedia chapter? Deryck On 30 May 2013 17:32, Bence Damokos wrote: Dear all, I am happy to inform you that the Affiliations Committee has approved the recognition of a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts on Admin Rights on WMF Wiki (and other things)

2013-05-28 Thread Deryck Chan
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bence Damokos wrote: Personally I think this line of the conversation (people resigning/fired) is taking the situation a bit too far. At the least not having volunteers administer the WMF's wiki is just punishment already. It seems

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Some interesting thing about our friend User:Shujenchang

2013-05-18 Thread Deryck Chan
Addis: 从我来看,事情大概已经解决了,没必要小题大做。家丑不出外扬。在一个这么公开的环境里面谈论中文维基百科的小事,实在不适合。 翘仔 On 18 May 2013 19:30, AddisWang wrote: Hi Everyone There may be no reason for me to post a Blocking Notification to the mail list, but this thing will absolutely let you feel shocked which I think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board candidates page: please set as a subject of translation

2013-05-14 Thread Deryck Chan
Hello. Meta now supports automatic conversion between different regional variants of standard Chinese. Can someone disable translation to zh-hans, zh-hant, zh-hk, and zh-tw? Otherwise we'll end up with 4 redundant translations. On 14 May 2013 17:38, Benjamin Chen wrote: Hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AffComs $40,000 Hong Kong junket

2013-05-13 Thread Deryck Chan
In such resolutions, one always budget for the maximum plausible cost and then underspend. It is rather unhelpful to look at the budgeted amount and shout at it as if it's the actual amount spent. PS. Jealous? Run for the forthcoming elections. Winners of those elections also get to travel to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Go away, community (from WMF wiki at least)

2013-05-11 Thread Deryck Chan
Given the foundation's recent tsunami of centralisation I'm not surprised by this at all. The message is clear - the community doesn't belong here. Go back to meta. I'll be interested to see how long the WMF wiki will last before they hit their first massive technical problem happens and they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Deryck Chan
On 30 April 2013 09:48, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: Yes I read your reply, but you keep stating we want, that is not that same as together with the grant giver we agreed… I cannot overstate the importance of the difference between the two… People don't instantly agree

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-30 Thread Deryck Chan
On 30 April 2013 10:22, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: Hey Florence On Apr 30, 2013, at 1:12 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: Le 4/30/13 12:04 AM, Nathan a écrit : It's not logical to assume that because the WMF has funds it should in some way

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-29 Thread Deryck Chan
On 29 April 2013 12:32, Craig Franklin wrote: I'd like to come back to this - if the entity was told they were eligible (which certainly looks to be the case from the public documents), when was it discovered they were not? When the FDC recommendations were

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-29 Thread Deryck Chan
a reallocation? Sent from my iPhone --- Thehelpfulone On 29 Apr 2013, at 12:43, Deryck Chan wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Deryck Chan Date: 29 Apr 2013 12:42 Subject: Re

[Wikimedia-l] Resignation announcement, and a parting remark to everyone

2013-04-28 Thread Deryck Chan
Dear trusty Wikimedians, The FDC decisions are out on Sunday. Despite my desperate attempts to assist WMHK's board to keep up with deadlines and comply with seemingly endless requests from WMF grantmaking and FDC support staff, we received an overwhelmingly negative assessment which resulted in a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New design for the list info page?

2013-04-17 Thread Deryck Chan
You mean, there is a cabal-l? How I wish I was invited! ;-) On 17 April 2013 21:30, Thehelpfulone wrote: Hi all, Last week I noticed a nice design for the list info page of the WLM-US mailing list that I tweaked for this mailing list:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Favicon notes

2013-04-13 Thread Deryck Chan
So it has changed indeed! A non-Wikimedian friend told me today that he noticed the font of the favicon is different. On 13 April 2013 21:56, MZMcBride wrote: For the curious: MZMcBride

Re: [Wikimedia-l] xkcd collecting donations for WMF?

2013-04-01 Thread Deryck Chan
As a side note, the first panel of the comic also openly calls its readers to edit war over certain articles. On 1 April 2013 20:22, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.chwrote: Did you see this April's Fool Day comic on xkcd, with an interactivly growing dog: The dog gains a pound

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Adopt a page

2013-03-29 Thread Deryck Chan
Because we've decided that [[WP:Ownership of articles]] is wrong, and wronger if there's financial sponsorship involved. On 29 March 2013 22:36, Strainu wrote: Hi, I've just seen an OTRS ticket asking why isn't Wikipedia giving its pages for adoption (like when you adopt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

2013-03-07 Thread Deryck Chan
On Mar 7, 2013 8:11 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Katie Chan wrote: On 06/03/2013 23:00, MZMcBride wrote: Out of curiosity, if you sign an NDA as a volunteer, what is the disclosure period, then? Is it indefinite?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's non-disclosure agreement

2013-03-06 Thread Deryck Chan
As far as I know, NDAs are primarily for protecting people's privacy. I signed a WMF NDA because I'll be reviewing Wikimania scholarships, and I'll see the real names and nationalities etc of many Wikimedia volunteers who attend Wikimania but still try to keep their RL identity separate from their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2013 scholarship now accepting application

2013-02-18 Thread Deryck Chan
No, because you haven't described what you're bringing :) On the other hand, a detailed, grammatically correct description of stroopwafels will almost certainly gain full marks for the English ability criterion. (And perhaps a bonus for interest in Wikimania if you make a good case) On 18

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Outcome of Wikimedia board discussion on the Chapters Association

2013-02-05 Thread Deryck Chan
On 5 February 2013 15:30, Ilario Valdelli wrote: On 05.02.2013 16:18, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: there's nothing to pick up so far. The FDC has not held any meetings since (obviously), and it generally operates within the mandate given by the Board (which makes all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blog: Virtual Learning Environment

2013-01-11 Thread Deryck Chan
There is also some work being conducted to investigate ways of writing a modification to Moodle to allow HTML to be imported from wiki pages to directly, providing a transclusion function. This sentence looks somewhat awkward... On 11 January 2013 15:41, Stevie Benton

Re: [Wikimedia-l] proposed urgent Board of Trustees resolution without a meeting

2012-12-24 Thread Deryck Chan
Wait, fundraising is finishing early this year? Last time I heard anything, the storytelling team is still desperately scrambling new appeals to try out within this fundraiser. Correct me if I'm misinformed. Deryck On Dec 24, 2012 6:00 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: On Dec 24,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikipedia-l] Sort it

2012-10-26 Thread Deryck Chan
Too often what happens is: I try to help a newbie by email; but before they make much progress another admin comes and blocks them for the damage they've already caused. Obviously the newbie gives up. Suggested technical improvement: create notices like editnotice on the block screen saying Admin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikivoyage project launch/migration update

2012-10-17 Thread Deryck Chan
On 17 October 2012 09:16, Amir E. Aharoni 2012/10/17 Strainu 2012/10/17 Gerard Meijssen This has been discussed in the language committee. In the committee we all agreed that the existing languages for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia-blog] [Wikimedia Announcements] Joint statement from Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia UK

2012-09-28 Thread Deryck Chan
On 28 September 2012 22:39, Thomas Dalton wrote: On Sep 28, 2012 9:45 PM, Nathan wrote: Wow. I honestly didn't think the conflict of interest issue was this serious. The conflict wasn't that bad, but the very poor handling of it casts serious

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Naming for the Travel Guide project

2012-09-27 Thread Deryck Chan
Tom, Thanks for making this offer. The worst that could happen to a Wikimedia competition is, indeed, one that requires money to join. Deryck On Sep 27, 2012 2:15 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: If anyone has a good idea for a name, but lacks to funds or means to pick it

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Re: FUDChilling EffectsFiltersOutlawing

2012-09-25 Thread Deryck Chan
-- Forwarded message -- From: Deryck Chan Date: Sep 25, 2012 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] FUDChilling EffectsFiltersOutlawing To: Wikimedia Mailing List This is old news. This is what we've been protesting against all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-12 Thread Deryck Chan
One possibility lies within their terms of use: If you're not interested in our goals, or if you agree with our goals but refuse to collaborate, compromise, reach consensus make concessions with other Wikitravellers, we ask that you not use this Web

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-12 Thread Deryck Chan
On 12 September 2012 12:27, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.comwrote: [...] fortunately courts do not rely on metaphors :) Tom Oh they do. That's precisely what case law is. Inaccurate metaphors are the reason that courts worldwide have a ridiculous view on what constitutes a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Travel Guide: Board statement

2012-09-07 Thread Deryck Chan
Just write Imported from Wikitravel and list the names of all page authors by scrubbing the Wikitravel page. Attribution given, problem solved! (okay, not the import practicality bit) On 7 September 2012 21:14, Nathan wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:11 PM, emijrp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Foundation Seeks Declaratory Relief in response to Legal Threats from Internet Brands

2012-09-06 Thread Deryck Chan
In contrast to Tom's opinion, I believe that WMF has done the right thing - write the blog post in a way so as to create the biggest PR impact within the limits of factual accuracy; and link to the PDF and discussions for the sake of transparency. On 6 September 2012 15:12, Thomas Morton

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-09-05 Thread Deryck Chan
Keyhole solution: The MediaWiki API and Wikipedia copyright and trademark licences allow Wikipedia Redefined to implement their ideas already. It will, of course, be marketed as an alternative browsing and editing device like AWB currently is. If there's enough uptake, it's never too late for WMF

Re: [Wikimedia-l] conversations between WMF and non-English projects

2012-07-30 Thread Deryck Chan
Hire someone from the local Wikipedia community to do it. This can be integrated into the proposed language community and cultural translation WMF fellow's job description. MediaWiki feature decisions are gruesome chores. In small language project communities the active editors typically don't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board appointments July 2012

2012-07-25 Thread Deryck Chan
See Votes were initially cast on 11 July with Phoebe and Arne still on the board. Then Jimmy changed his vote on 16 July. On 25 July 2012 14:50, Béria Lima wrote: If they got confirmed at July

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Deryck Chan
I think the clear moral of this story is that, as accommodating and reader-friendly you can be, you just can't make everyone happy. We should listen to all opinions and suggestions, but expect to decide most of the time that the suggestions are simply dumb or unhelpful. On 25 July 2012 16:22,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apparently, Wikipedia is ugly

2012-07-25 Thread Deryck Chan
On 17 July 2012 00:46, Andreas Kolbe wrote: I honestly don't understand why it is taking so many years to develop a WYSIWYG editor, for example, or a new Commons search function. Honestly, people, if you want to create paid jobs, don't inflate the chapter structure, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Geolocalization improvement proposal

2012-07-23 Thread Deryck Chan
On Jul 23, 2012 2:59 PM, Deryck Chan wrote: On Jul 23, 2012 11:48 AM, aude wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Cristian Consonni wrote: 2012/7/18 Cristian Consonni I know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Request for comment on global bans

2012-07-06 Thread Deryck Chan
Short answer as I understand it: Global blocks are the technical feature and refer to the accounts, the IPs and the software capability; global bans are the policy and refer to the people who are unwelcome. On 6 July 2012 10:44, ENWP Pine wrote: Hi Steven, Could you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Deryck Chan
On 3 July 2012 19:08, Nathan wrote: I love it when people send e-mails to the public list, and purposefully refrain from actually discussing the actual events at issue. You have to read 3/4ths of the e-mail to get an idea that it's about someone being blocked, but you still

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Language links and double language links on the Wikipedias

2012-06-26 Thread Deryck Chan
One major problem with double language links I've encountered before was that they confuse interwiki bots and therefore break things. Several articles on the Cantonese Wikipedia (zh-yue.wp) pertaining to local political and cultural issues in the Cantonese-speaking world have __NOBOT__ on them

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on IPv6

2012-06-13 Thread Deryck Chan
On a separate note about IPv6: I just saw the first IPv6 anon entry appearing on my watchlist. It's exciting! Deryck On 13 June 2012 13:43, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: I noticed that my current IPv6 address

Re: [Wikimedia-l] TomTom does a Britannica

2012-05-29 Thread Deryck Chan
I was skeptical with parent-like satnavs when they were first introduced back then; I still am skeptical today. What's inadequate about Read map*, pay attention to the road, use brain? Deryck *I'm a big fan of using the automatic route-planning features of map systems like Google Maps or even

Re: [Wikimedia-l] No internet censorship in Hong Kong

2012-05-11 Thread Deryck Chan
Not a problem. Many east and south-east Asian countries' citizens enjoy visa-free access to Hong Kong ( ). Visa-on-demand for business or leisure travel is also available for residents of most major cities in mainland China and all of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] No internet censorship in Hong Kong

2012-05-10 Thread Deryck Chan
transport, uncensored internet connection and unhindered access to Wikimedia projects. We hope to see you all at Wikimania 2012 in Washington DC and Wikimania 2013 in Hong Kong. With best wishes, Deryck Chan Global engagement coordinator Wikimania 2013 organizing team / Wikimedia Hong Kong [1] http

Re: [Wikimedia-l] No internet censorship in Hong Kong

2012-05-10 Thread Deryck Chan
PM, Deryck Chan wrote: Dear all, It has come to the attention of the Wikimania 2013 Hong Kong organizing team that there may be confusion over the situation of internet censorship in China and whether it affects Hong Kong. [1] We would like to clarify