Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-10 Thread Tim Starling
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: >> A very small minority of users don't have HTTPS >> support, or their computers are so old that it makes the site unusably >> slow. That's a *very* small percentage of users, though. There's also the small issue of a billion people in China who

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-08 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Brad Jorsch wrote: > "Hard-enabled", on the other hand, means that anyone fetching the http > URL would be redirected to the corresponding https URL.[2] If this > were somehow done now, then people in China would not be able to read > Wikipedia at all because the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-08 Thread Brad Jorsch
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Anthony wrote: > > What is this "hard-enabled" and "soft-enabled"? I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but... I believe that "soft-enabled" means that https was set as the protocol in the canonical URLs for uzwiki. So search engines should start linking t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-08 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Matthew Roth wrote: > We have had contact with the authors of the blog and they have said they > will publish our response to their article, though I'm not sure when or in > what format. > > This is the content of our response: > > "The Wikimedia Foundation doesn’t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-08 Thread Anthony
What is this "hard-enabled" and "soft-enabled"? If the Chinese volunteer editor community requests that HTTPS be "soft-enabled" for them, and you do so, does that solve anything? On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Matthew Roth wrote: > We've also hard-enabled HTTPS on all of our > private wikis a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-08 Thread Anthony
This response seems to miss the fact that, in this particular case, censorship is being accomplished through eavesdropping. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Matthew Roth wrote: > Hi all, > I wanted to share a clarifying email from Ryan Lane in WMF Ops. He's > working through the challenges of HT

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Matthew Roth
Hi all, I wanted to share a clarifying email from Ryan Lane in WMF Ops. He's working through the challenges of HTTPS from the Foundation's end. Please see below for more details: -Matthew On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Ryan Lane wrote: > How does it impact people? Short answer: it shouldn't.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Benjamin Chen
On 8 Jun, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Matthew Roth wrote: > We have had contact with the authors of the blog and they have said they > will publish our response to their article, though I'm not sure when or in > what format. Great. That's really fast response. On the issue itself, we haven't seen any la

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Leslie Carr
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Benjamin Chen wrote: > Hi, > > Since 31 May, China's Great Firewall has blocked the HTTPS connection to all > language versions of Wikipedia, by blocking port 443 on two of our IPs. I was > also told that service to Wikimedia Commons may be affected. Other project

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Matthew Roth
We have had contact with the authors of the blog and they have said they will publish our response to their article, though I'm not sure when or in what format. This is the content of our response: "The Wikimedia Foundation doesn’t hold any readers of our projects in any less regard than others.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread shi zhao
https://upload.wikimedia.org also blocked Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://shizhao.org twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao [[zh:User:Shizhao]] 2013/6/7 Benjamin Chen : > Hi, > > Since 31 May, China's Great Firewall has blocked the HTTPS connection to all > language v

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread John
Wow, what a complete mis-understanding and misrepresenting of facts my that blog author On Friday, June 7, 2013, Benjamin Chen wrote: > Hi, > > Since 31 May, China's Great Firewall has blocked the HTTPS connection to > all language versions of Wikipedia, by blocking port 443 on two of our IPs. >

[Wikimedia-l] Blocking of HTTPS connection by China

2013-06-07 Thread Benjamin Chen
Hi, Since 31 May, China's Great Firewall has blocked the HTTPS connection to all language versions of Wikipedia, by blocking port 443 on two of our IPs. I was also told that service to Wikimedia Commons may be affected. Other projects, such as en.wikisource are not affected by this block (but t