Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news

2015-03-03 Thread Gheorghe Zugravu
Hi, a big thank you to Yuri for flagging this case of manipulation of public opinion. Reading through the links provided - i can say WP edit time was mostly discussed among ”pro-state” media. One journalist even went as far as insinuating that assassination was planned in the ”west” and that WP

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news

2015-03-02 Thread Oliver Keyes
This idea, I like it! And I think Yuri just volunteered to write the patches :P On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 2 March 2015 at 13:49, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: But if we're going to implement something, why not just..have timezone

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news

2015-03-02 Thread Oliver Keyes
Well, not all users have JavaScript. But, on the core of the proposal: What threats? What users? How many, how serious? Have they been reported to Legal and Community Advocacy? These are the questions we tend to ask about this sort of issue. Do we need to insert technical features to prevent it?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news

2015-03-02 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Threats: This page http://novorus.info/news/analytics/34163-vikipediya-soobschila-ob-ubiystve-nemcova-za-2-chasa-do-samogo-ubiystva.html (in Russian, very non-credible source of information, but has enough following to make it to MK.ru), discuss a well known wikipedian Dmitry Rozhkov. I saw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news

2015-03-02 Thread Liam Wyatt
Speaking of changes to the timestamps and UTC... Whatever happened to this change that was announced in 2012? http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/07/06/wikipedia-revision-history-experiment/ Something like this now happens on the Mobile view, but I thought this experiment (as described in the WMF blog)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news

2015-03-02 Thread Andrew Gray
On 2 March 2015 at 13:49, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: But if we're going to implement something, why not just..have timezone be an element of the timestamps on history pages? It's UTC unless the user explicitly changes it, and if they explicitly change it that's known in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news

2015-03-02 Thread Andrew Gray
On 2 March 2015 at 13:49, Oliver Keyes ironho...@gmail.com wrote: But if we're going to implement something, why not just..have timezone be an element of the timestamps on history pages? It's UTC unless the user explicitly changes it, and if they explicitly change it that's known in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UTC in politics, editors threaten, or how rev history made the news

2015-03-02 Thread Habib M'henni
Hello, FYI we had the same issue two years ago in Tunisia when a Tunisian politician was shot and an IP made the edit in UTC. See our response in (in French) http://www.wikimedia.tn/nouvelle-polemique-sur-wikipedia-en-tunisie/ Finally the Radio station who relayed this scoop wrote an