Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
Hello, On English Wikipedia I have met with resistance in documenting crowdfunding projects. I would like clarity on the extent to which the Wikimedia community feels that it is acceptable to discuss crowdfunding in Wikimedia community information channels. I posted about this on the talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Crowdfunding#User_banned_for_discussing_crowdfunding If [[WP:CROWDFUNDING]], which is mostly blanked pending a community discussion of whether crowdfunding can be mentioned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Crowdfunding yours, On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-24 14:55 GMT+01:00 Nathan nawr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:59 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Which email ? the crowdfunding email? Austin, do the list admins have another perspective to justify their action? [...] I'd like the answer to this question too. It does seem the crowdfunding e-mail, also the original e-mail was crossposted to Commons-l and WIkimedia-l. Possibly Nemo overlooked this, but anyway I do not think this is a good reason to put someone in the moderation list. If this was the rationale, this action should be undone. C ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 l...@bluerasberry.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
On 24 February 2015 at 13:55, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like the answer to this question too. Could there be some transparency please? I believe it would be a good time for the list mods to publicly decide how appeals to moderation or list-bans should work in a way that is credibly non-partisan to the community. Moderation should be seen to be fair and not subject to allegations of it's a question of who is mates with whom, or who wants to keep the most political capital with unnamed power-holders. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:59 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Which email ? the crowdfunding email? Austin, do the list admins have another perspective to justify their action? -- John Vandenberg I'd like the answer to this question too. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-02-24 15:52 GMT+01:00 Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com: On English Wikipedia I have met with resistance in documenting crowdfunding projects. I would like clarity on the extent to which the Wikimedia community feels that it is acceptable to discuss crowdfunding in Wikimedia community information channels. With more and more Wikimedians engaging in crowdfunding, I suppose we can talk about whether the mailing list for Wikimedia movement organization is the place to advertise in this way. For my part, I don't think a simple (i.e., without any additional context) please check out this Indiegogo is any different from hey, check out my blog, so when the last one came through the queue I rejected it without much thought. It certainly wasn't done with any prejudice. As far as this mailing list [i.e. Wikimedia-l] is concerned I can say that Wikimedia-related crowdfunding projects have been discussed here in the past. The first example is probably the The Vanamo Online Game Museum[1] campaign and the last is a project to collect funds for a Wimiedian photographer whose equipment was stolen[2]. Not to mention the WikiCheese campaign[3] by Wikimedia France which generated more than some 50 messages on this list. That's true. In the case of the former, the post was never held for moderation, and it was *so* not a big deal that I didn't think twice about that one, either. WikiCheese was a bit of fun that made us all smile, and I guess if you really wanted to analyze it (I don't), it was a project that invited broader participation and benefited the community as a whole. But, again, I really didn't care either way. The only reason this came up here is because the latest poster had been put on moderation, and some people are still unhappy about that. Austin ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: With more and more Wikimedians engaging in crowdfunding, I suppose we can talk about whether the mailing list for Wikimedia movement organization is the place to advertise in this way. For my part, I don't think a simple (i.e., without any additional context) please check out this Indiegogo is any different from hey, check out my blog, so when the last one came through the queue I rejected it without much thought. It certainly wasn't done with any prejudice. For my part, I always like to see crowdfunding pitches from Wikimedians. There haven't been *that* many of them (maybe 8 or 10?), and so far they've all (that I've seen) come from prolific contributors. These crowdfunding pitches generally take a lot more effort to put together than a blog post does, and they are also easy and satisfying to act on. If I can take 3 minutes and a few dollars to simultaneously say thanks to a great contributor and help them make even better contributions, I'm grateful for that opportunity. -Sage ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
2015-02-24 15:52 GMT+01:00 Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com: On English Wikipedia I have met with resistance in documenting crowdfunding projects. I would like clarity on the extent to which the Wikimedia community feels that it is acceptable to discuss crowdfunding in Wikimedia community information channels. As far as this mailing list [i.e. Wikimedia-l] is concerned I can say that Wikimedia-related crowdfunding projects have been discussed here in the past. The first example is probably the The Vanamo Online Game Museum[1] campaign and the last is a project to collect funds for a Wimiedian photographer whose equipment was stolen[2]. Not to mention the WikiCheese campaign[3] by Wikimedia France which generated more than some 50 messages on this list. C [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-November/128695.html [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-December/075706.html [3] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-November/075476.html ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediameta-l] Bye
Hopefully this was just an error than. When is Nemo being un-moderated? -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
