Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread Mark
On 8/12/12 1:20 AM, David Gerard wrote: On 12 August 2012 00:07, Ocaasi Ocaasi wrote: This is not just a problem with paywalled sources, but *any* source which is not available free *and* online. Not all of the sources that have been donated are solely pay-for-access; some of them, for exam

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread David Gerard
On 12 August 2012 00:07, Ocaasi Ocaasi wrote: > This is not just a problem with paywalled sources, but *any* source which is > not available free *and* online. Not all of the sources that have been > donated are solely pay-for-access; some of them, for example, you would just > need a good un

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread Ocaasi Ocaasi
A few additional thoughts: This is not just a problem with paywalled sources, but *any* source which is not available free *and* online.  Not all of the sources that have been donated are solely pay-for-access; some of them, for example, you would just need a good university library reference s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread Ocaasi Ocaasi
I think there is fair reason to raise questions about the benefit of paywalled sources, despite my optimism about the partnerships. I don't totally share the concerns, but they are surely worth addressing: First off, we are not handled any ideal choices here.  Either our editors do not have acc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 August 2012 23:15, Todd Allen wrote: > Regardless, my congratulations and thanks to Ocassi who's capitalized > on this sea change. You've done a significant service to the project. +1 to that. Well done! - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread Todd Allen
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 4:06 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 11 August 2012 22:56, Michael Peel wrote: > >> So this is a balancing act - but I'm not currently sure which side outweighs >> the other, or whether the two sides are currently balancing each other out… >> What does everyone think? And i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 August 2012 22:56, Michael Peel wrote: > So this is a balancing act - but I'm not currently sure which side outweighs > the other, or whether the two sides are currently balancing each other out… > What does everyone think? And is there an on-wiki page where we can discuss > these offers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread Etienne Beaule
Mike has a good point. I expect Access2Research (see archives of wikimedia-l) to be creating more open research though. On 2012-08-11 6:56 PM, "Michael Peel" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm still trying to figure out whether these partnerships are a good or bad > thing for Wikimedia. > > Yes, it's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread Risker
My thoughts are as follows: These "paywall" resources only make accessible information that has already been published, and which editors would otherwise have to purchase or access through other financially-restrictive means. But the same is true of our readers, who would have to check the refere

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-11 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, I'm still trying to figure out whether these partnerships are a good or bad thing for Wikimedia. Yes, it's good/great that Wikimedia volunteers are able to access these resources so that they can develop Wikipedia articles, and hence increasing the amount of knowledge that we can freel

[Wikimedia-l] More opportunities for you to access free research databases!

2012-08-09 Thread Ocaasi Ocaasi
The quest for get Wikipedia editors the sources they need is gaining momentum.   Here's what's happening and what you can sign up for ''right now'': * '''[[WP:Credo|Credo Reference]]''' provides full-text online versions of nearly 1200 published reference works from more than 70 publishers in ev