Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

Dear Brion, thank you for starting this thread and for your caveats. Among the challenges when creating new movement entities, or organs, I think there are at least two which we have experienced in the past: a) A certain part of the Wikipedians has a very individualistic mind and may not want to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

On Sunday, February 28, 2016, Pharos wrote: > Hi fellow Wikimedians, > > If we are seriously going to consider an expanded Community Council as an > alternative to WMF BoT reform, we need to have a real discussion about what > "devolution" would mean, and what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

A link to Pharos's (and others') Community Council Compact: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_Council_Compact Your questions highlight the complexity of creating a new, representative corporation. It would be a lot simpler to just convert WMF into a membership organisation with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

Hi fellow Wikimedians, If we are seriously going to consider an expanded Community Council as an alternative to WMF BoT reform, we need to have a real discussion about what "devolution" would mean, and what specific responsibilities we think should be given up, and distributed to a broader

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

On 28.02.2016 15:53, Brion Vibber wrote: > I just want to split out a concept that came up in the big threads of the > last few days: > > Some members of the WMF Board of Trustees are giving strong signals (like, > saying it outright) that the BoT can't fully take on the role of movement >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Ad Huikeshoven wrote: > B) Another way would be to use securepoll to (s)elect a number of people in > a specific country by active editors in that country to accept certain > representative roles, for example in two way communication between >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

2016-02-28 15:53 GMT+01:00 Brion Vibber : > Some members of the WMF Board of Trustees are giving strong signals (like, > saying it outright) that the BoT can't fully take on the role of movement > leadership or community representation. Not because they think it shouldn't >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

Hi Brion, these signals indeed worry me a bit. The fact that they bring it up so directly, probably indicates they have struggled with it. If we indeed want some kind of overarching body for the movement as a whole, and the current board feels incapable to be that, there are I think a number of

[Wikimedia-l] Movement representation vs WMF board reform

I just want to split out a concept that came up in the big threads of the last few days: Some members of the WMF Board of Trustees are giving strong signals (like, saying it outright) that the BoT can't fully take on the role of movement leadership or community representation. Not because they