[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

I am still concerned that the WMF communications staff would send out this without understanding that it would cause anuproar and how sad and upset many are that they focus so much on English. I also think we Europeans in this thread need to stop lecturing the Africans about how Africa works and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

I am personally fully in support of Wikimedia supporting journalism, fwiw. On Sat, May 6, 2023, 9:08 AM Bobby Shabangu wrote: > These are interesting viewpoints indeed. > > I think the connection between these awards and Wikipedia (especially in > the African continent) is clearly stated in the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

And by the way Andreas, I know you are very detailed oriented. We were consulted about this pilot in South Africa. I was also ask to bring this up at WikiIndaba Steering Committee (WISCom ) hence you see winners are going to be

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

These are interesting viewpoints indeed. I think the connection between these awards and Wikipedia (especially in the African continent) is clearly stated in the article. In fact, if it was me who was writing this press release I would have started that sentence with: - Most African

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Dear Bobby, Shola and all, You say, "We (Africans) were consulted". According to Meta[1], the Working Group for these awards comprised four English-speaking Wikimedians (at least two of whom are themselves journalists) from Nigeria, Ghana, South Sudan and Kenya. At the time of writing, the Meta

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

+1 to Paul. I was thinking of the same thing but was confused about how to put it. Many individuals from underrepresented communities, including myself, often feel hesitant to contribute to global-level conversations in a meaningful way and raise their concerns. The connection between Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

To me, this award is reaching well beyond the scope of what the Wikimedia community should be doing. It does not, to me, align with our Movement Strategy's recommendations nor their initiatives

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Thanks for your email and concerns about inclusion Andreas. We (Africans) were consulted. And thanks Shola for that response. The key word here is “Pilot”. Looking forward to the results and impact of this project in future. Best regards, Bobby Shabangu On Fri, 05 May 2023 at 18:45,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

I know there are cultures in the world that regard English as a litmus test with regards to whether or not you’re educated, and was wondering if that added a layer of nuance to the conversation. However, this changed my mind: > >> Q: My article is in French, Portuguese, Swahili, or any other

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

While I share the concerns expressed, I'm personally enthusiastic about the thoughtfulness and initiative of the Working Group. It might help to explicitly mention the awareness of these language issues in the public presentation of this effort. On Fri, May 5, 2023, 10:45 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Hi Lodewijk, In your reply to Olushola you said: "I hope you can perhaps also clarify whether 'in English' means that the original article has to be available in English, or that some translation should be available in English." As Shola hasn't provided any clarification on this, note that the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

This is so close to being a good thing and then it stumbles on the cultural imperialism of English. It's like they don't understand how this is a slap in the face of many who know the WMF would never do this in their language. Had it just left out that part it would have been great. Now it's like

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Thank you, Effe, for your feedback; I've noted that. This initiative is entirely new, with journalists who are also not Wikimedians as the target audience. With this view in mind, we agreed to engage only African Wikimedians and those who have worked with journalists to understand their thoughts

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Thanks a lot, Euphemia and Olushola, As someone who was involved in the discussions about this initiative, I believe it is a positive endeavor and there is no need to be concerned about language diversity with the chosen language. This project is a trial run, and the insights gained from its

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Dear Olushola, Thank you for sharing the work that went into the initiative. I had participated as a volunteer community member with a host of others from the African communities in the community conversations to co-create the initiative. There was an acknowledgement that this is a pilot and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Hi Olushola, thanks for working on efforts like this. I think it's definitely our African communities that should be the judge of what shape works best for an award like this. Out of curiosity, as a way for us all to learn and maybe for Africans among us who want to participate in this

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

*Dear all, * *My name is Olushola (User: Olaniyan Olushola). I am from Africa and have been a Wikimedia since 2014 and passionate about language. I co-lead the Oral History documentation of Nigerian indigenous languages ( see more about it **here*

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Dear Andreas, I support your message, but I wanted to add that 100 million Africans speak Arabic. And yes, English is widely known but, even in countries with large populations (Nigeria) less than 1/5 of the population have it as first language

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation launches Open the Knowledge Journalism Awards on World Press Freedom Day

Bon dia / Hi, Thank you for pointing this out, Andreas. This is exactly why there are more and more voices against the mindset of the Wikimedia Foundation and its aims to expand its coverage beyond what should be the technical maintenance and the legal boundaries of the Wikimedia projects.