Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-09 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:51 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > Loomio offers free use for community cases. But it's non-free software, as > far as I can see, but I didn't made deep inquiry. So I wondered if anyone > was aware of a free software equivalent. > The WM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-08 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Sorry for having missed the irony. Cheers, Denny On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 2:39 AM mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > > > Le 07/12/2017 à 18:12, Denny Vrandečić a écrit : > > Mathieu, > > you wrote > > > Despite the fact that reaching c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-08 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Thank you James for the link. The section is now archived in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#What_percentage_support_should_be_needed_for_a_policy_proposal_on_Wikipedia_to_pass? Le 07/12/2017 à 19:38, James Heilman a écrit : Am with Denny on this. We are currently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-08 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 07/12/2017 à 18:12, Denny Vrandečić a écrit : Mathieu, you wrote Despite the fact that reaching community consensus is an easy task, I just wanted to check whether that was a typo, irony, or actually meant that way. In the latter case, I would like to ask for {{cn}}. Sorry, some emoticon

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread Alex Power
Consensus is easy to obtain when trying to solve easy problems, and hard to obtain when trying to solve hard problems. I doubt that this tool will change that. On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > Mathieu, > > you wrote > > > Despite the fact that reaching community consens

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread Chico Venancio
Loomio is free software as well, I guess you could host your own instance if you find their interface preferable, though I don't think we could (or should) achieve consensus to move decisions offwiki. Chico Venancio Em 7 de dez de 2017 10:17, "Philippe Beaudette" escreveu: Other than mediawiki,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread James Heilman
Am with Denny on this. We are currently discussing what "consensus" means and how to achieve it on EN WP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#What_percentage_support_should_be_needed_for_a_policy_proposal_on_Wikipedia_to_pass ? James On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Den

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Mathieu, you wrote > Despite the fact that reaching community consensus is an easy task, I just wanted to check whether that was a typo, irony, or actually meant that way. In the latter case, I would like to ask for {{cn}}. Reaching and establishing community consensus seems to me one of the ha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread Kunal Mehta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, On 12/07/2017 04:51 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote: > Loomio offers free use for community cases. But it's non-free > software, as far as I can see, but I didn't made deep inquiry. So I > wondered if anyone was aware of a free software equivalen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Le 07/12/2017 à 14:17, Philippe Beaudette a écrit : Other than mediawiki, with some extensions? I'm not trying to be snarky, but there's not a ton on that page that can't be done with mediawiki. :-) :) But, do you have specific extensions in mind? I didn't test loomio actually, but it is c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Other than mediawiki, with some extensions? I'm not trying to be snarky, but there's not a ton on that page that can't be done with mediawiki. :-) On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:51 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org> wrote: > Saluton ĉiuj, > > Despite the fact that reaching comm

[Wikimedia-l] Tool to help reaching community consensus

2017-12-07 Thread mathieu stumpf guntz
Saluton ĉiuj, Despite the fact that reaching community consensus is an easy task, I'm nonetheless wasting time at looking for tools which might help achieve that. I just red /4 simplaj ideoj por direkti vian komunumon al interkonsento/