Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikipedistes documentary in Catalan TV
Thanks for posting - I loved the documentary! For me the most obvious
difference between the groups shown in your various meetings and the
get-togethers we have in the Netherlands is the age of the
participants. I think we in WMNL attract a lot more gray hair than
you do. I think it would be a great idea to cut it up into clips,
because there are lots of themes in there that can all draw their own
public (libraries museums, WLM, QRpedia, etc.)
I wonder if the age difference has to do with the slightly political
nature of keeping a smaller language afloat in a country that
recognizes another language as the official one? It makes me wonder
about the average age of the people showing up at meetings for the
Frisian Wikipedia in the northern cities of the Netherlands. I have
never been to one of their meetings before but now I am curious (and
we don't have a Frisian Wikimedia community - yet).
2014-03-04 0:51 GMT+01:00, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org:
On 03/03/2014 12:50 AM, Pau Giner wrote:
The video, in Catalan, can be viewed at
http://www.tv3.cat/videos/4930191/30%2520minuts%253A%2520VIQUIPEDISTES
Yes, thank you!
The documentary was good but, as a whole, more Catalan-centric than I
personally expected. Still, the ca.wiki community has started to discuss
the possibility to cut the documentary in capsules, and then some of
those might become very good introductions for just anybody interested
in how Wikipedia works. No specific plans yet.
The producers did a good job at compiling diverse perspectives and focus
areas: how some editors started with a first edit, how veteran editors
work on top quality articles with references, how admins deal with
vandalism, neutrality and different views in different languages, GLAM
and the photographers, community meetings, WMF and the state-based
chapters vs language-based projects, the role of public libraries and
museums as educators, content creators and gender gap shifters, the
views from the academia...
One recurrent topic was the massive use of Wikipedia among young
students, with funny scenes at class when the kids laugh because their
works use basically the same sentences, all copied in a single stroke
from the same articles. How the teacher encourages them to use Wikipedia
but find your own words to express those ideas, where researchers think
that all this is heading to...
They also interviewed the guy that created the first article in ca.wiki,
which happened to be the first article in a language other than English
-- https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%80bac . It was interesting to hear
from him that one day the text-based Wikipedia will be history because
most probably learning will be based in media. It kept me thinking
whether it will be still the Wikimedia community who will ride that
wave, or someone else with fresh ideas and without the legacy and
community burdens we have...
Anyway, at least Amical and ca.wiki have now very good audiovisual
materials that will help them a lot reaching out to new contributors and
explaining to them all the things we do here.
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Stepping out of my WMF tech role, wearing my ca.wiki volunteering hat.)
This Sunday the program 30 minuts of TV3 (top TV channel in Catalan)
will broadcast a documentary about Wikipedistes. Yes, it has a small
audience compared to US prime time, but in terms of Catalan audience you
probably can't go more prime time than that without being ''indecent''
or wearing a FC Barcelona shirt. :)
http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/en
What is more important, this veteran program keeps very high standards
in journalism and TV reporting. The two previews being aired these days
are promising:
http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/proper
Any single editor appearing in these trailers has been already contacted
by friends and relatives (Hey, I saw you on TV!!!), and the ca.wiki /
Amical Wikimedia supporters can't wait to watch the full version.
The documentary will be available online. If it is as good as the
average 30 minuts documentaries are, we {{Who}} might think of a way
to get it subtitled in English. They have an archive of programs with
English subtitles (see the first link), but with all the budget cuts
public TV is facing I don't know how much resources would they have for
translating Wikipedistes, even if the idea makes sense. Crowdsourcing?
Anyway, more if/when the documentary is good.
--
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikipedistes documentary in Catalan TV
Message: 3 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:01:58 +0100 From: Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikipedistes documentary in Catalan TV Message-ID: cafvca-hkltdy3tmbcxegcqp+s1kt6btslcn8f9uetn3qyk6...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for posting - I loved the documentary! For me the most obvious difference between the groups shown in your various meetings and the get-togethers we have in the Netherlands is the age of the participants. I think we in WMNL attract a lot more gray hair than you do. I think it would be a great idea to cut it up into clips, because there are lots of themes in there that can all draw their own public (libraries museums, WLM, QRpedia, etc.) I wonder if the age difference has to do with the slightly political nature of keeping a smaller language afloat in a country that recognizes another language as the official one? It has to do with the slightly political nature of trying to extinguish a great language. All gray haired appearing in the video they had to learn to write being adults. When they went to school the Catalan was banned and persecuted. It makes me wonder about the average age of the people showing up at meetings for the Frisian Wikipedia in the northern cities of the Netherlands. I have never been to one of their meetings before but now I am curious (and we don't have a Frisian Wikimedia community - yet). ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikipedistes documentary in Catalan TV
The video, in Catalan, can be viewed at
http://www.tv3.cat/videos/4930191/30%2520minuts%253A%2520VIQUIPEDISTES
Pau
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Stepping out of my WMF tech role, wearing my ca.wiki volunteering hat.)
This Sunday the program 30 minuts of TV3 (top TV channel in Catalan)
will broadcast a documentary about Wikipedistes. Yes, it has a small
audience compared to US prime time, but in terms of Catalan audience you
probably can't go more prime time than that without being ''indecent''
or wearing a FC Barcelona shirt. :)
http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/en
What is more important, this veteran program keeps very high standards
in journalism and TV reporting. The two previews being aired these days
are promising:
http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/proper
Any single editor appearing in these trailers has been already contacted
by friends and relatives (Hey, I saw you on TV!!!), and the ca.wiki /
Amical Wikimedia supporters can't wait to watch the full version.
The documentary will be available online. If it is as good as the
average 30 minuts documentaries are, we {{Who}} might think of a way
to get it subtitled in English. They have an archive of programs with
English subtitles (see the first link), but with all the budget cuts
public TV is facing I don't know how much resources would they have for
translating Wikipedistes, even if the idea makes sense. Crowdsourcing?
Anyway, more if/when the documentary is good.
--
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikipedistes documentary in Catalan TV
On 03/03/2014 12:50 AM, Pau Giner wrote:
The video, in Catalan, can be viewed at
http://www.tv3.cat/videos/4930191/30%2520minuts%253A%2520VIQUIPEDISTES
Yes, thank you!
The documentary was good but, as a whole, more Catalan-centric than I
personally expected. Still, the ca.wiki community has started to discuss
the possibility to cut the documentary in capsules, and then some of
those might become very good introductions for just anybody interested
in how Wikipedia works. No specific plans yet.
The producers did a good job at compiling diverse perspectives and focus
areas: how some editors started with a first edit, how veteran editors
work on top quality articles with references, how admins deal with
vandalism, neutrality and different views in different languages, GLAM
and the photographers, community meetings, WMF and the state-based
chapters vs language-based projects, the role of public libraries and
museums as educators, content creators and gender gap shifters, the
views from the academia...
One recurrent topic was the massive use of Wikipedia among young
students, with funny scenes at class when the kids laugh because their
works use basically the same sentences, all copied in a single stroke
from the same articles. How the teacher encourages them to use Wikipedia
but find your own words to express those ideas, where researchers think
that all this is heading to...
They also interviewed the guy that created the first article in ca.wiki,
which happened to be the first article in a language other than English
-- https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%80bac . It was interesting to hear
from him that one day the text-based Wikipedia will be history because
most probably learning will be based in media. It kept me thinking
whether it will be still the Wikimedia community who will ride that
wave, or someone else with fresh ideas and without the legacy and
community burdens we have...
Anyway, at least Amical and ca.wiki have now very good audiovisual
materials that will help them a lot reaching out to new contributors and
explaining to them all the things we do here.
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
(Stepping out of my WMF tech role, wearing my ca.wiki volunteering hat.)
This Sunday the program 30 minuts of TV3 (top TV channel in Catalan)
will broadcast a documentary about Wikipedistes. Yes, it has a small
audience compared to US prime time, but in terms of Catalan audience you
probably can't go more prime time than that without being ''indecent''
or wearing a FC Barcelona shirt. :)
http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/en
What is more important, this veteran program keeps very high standards
in journalism and TV reporting. The two previews being aired these days
are promising:
http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/proper
Any single editor appearing in these trailers has been already contacted
by friends and relatives (Hey, I saw you on TV!!!), and the ca.wiki /
Amical Wikimedia supporters can't wait to watch the full version.
The documentary will be available online. If it is as good as the
average 30 minuts documentaries are, we {{Who}} might think of a way
to get it subtitled in English. They have an archive of programs with
English subtitles (see the first link), but with all the budget cuts
public TV is facing I don't know how much resources would they have for
translating Wikipedistes, even if the idea makes sense. Crowdsourcing?
Anyway, more if/when the documentary is good.
--
Quim Gil
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http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Wikipedistes documentary in Catalan TV
(Stepping out of my WMF tech role, wearing my ca.wiki volunteering hat.)
This Sunday the program 30 minuts of TV3 (top TV channel in Catalan)
will broadcast a documentary about Wikipedistes. Yes, it has a small
audience compared to US prime time, but in terms of Catalan audience you
probably can't go more prime time than that without being ''indecent''
or wearing a FC Barcelona shirt. :)
http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/en
What is more important, this veteran program keeps very high standards
in journalism and TV reporting. The two previews being aired these days
are promising:
http://www.tv3.cat/30minuts/proper
Any single editor appearing in these trailers has been already contacted
by friends and relatives (Hey, I saw you on TV!!!), and the ca.wiki /
Amical Wikimedia supporters can't wait to watch the full version.
The documentary will be available online. If it is as good as the
average 30 minuts documentaries are, we {{Who}} might think of a way
to get it subtitled in English. They have an archive of programs with
English subtitles (see the first link), but with all the budget cuts
public TV is facing I don't know how much resources would they have for
translating Wikipedistes, even if the idea makes sense. Crowdsourcing?
Anyway, more if/when the documentary is good.
--
Quim Gil
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