Wikipedia-l is not the most active of lists, to put it mildly. Those
interested in discussing the potential advantages and drawbacks of a
Wikipedia without press sources and coming up with some ideas for a
feasible compromise are advised that there is a related thread on
Wikipediocracy, at
On 7/4/12 1:04 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
What would a Wikipedia look like that did not make use of press sources? It
would look a hell of a lot more like an encyclopedia. Thousands of silly
arguments would never arise. Thousands of apposite criticisms of Wikipedia
would never arise. These are
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote:
On 7/4/12 1:04 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
What would a Wikipedia look like that did not make use of press sources?
It
would look a hell of a lot more like an encyclopedia. Thousands of silly
arguments would never arise.
On 4 July 2012 01:38, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
Well, if I were suddenly named dictator of Wikipedia, I'd probably suggest
that a recent event namespace be created, where popular media were
acceptable sources, and make them verbotten in mainspace. Mainspace
articles might
Or a template at the top.
'This article relies on newspaper sources...please contribute better
sources or tag with notability if you cant find any better sources.'
P.s. This offtopic thread should be on Wikipedia lists as its not about the
movement in general.
On Jul 4, 2012 6:13 PM, Svip
First they deleted Michelle Obama's arms,[1] now they want to get rid of
Justin Bieber on Twitter.[2] What is the world coming to!
[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Michelle_Obama%27s_arms
[2]
On 3 July 2012 12:02, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:15, Svip wrote:
I can't believe _I_ am not the ultimate ruler on what is valuable
enough to get on Wikipedia. It seems most of the delete comments on
the Justin Bieber article are mostly people who
I think that is a very dismissive misreading of the discussion.
Some people have it in their heads that appears in reliable sources
equates to article-worthiness, but the problem here is that the doings
of celebrities is covered in excruciating detial by the media, including
what tey eat,
Would it be possible to get copies of the older non-notable articles?
I would like to add them all to speedydeletion.wikia.com
thanks,
mike
James Michael DuPont
Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org
Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org
On 3 July 2012 14:49, Svip svi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 3 July 2012 15:35, Tarc Meridian t...@hotmail.com wrote:
What does 'encyclopaedic worthiness' even mean? If Wikipedia is an
encyclopaedia, then all those niche-wikis are encyclopaedia too.
Well, yes, they basically replace the specialist
On 03/07/2012 11:09 AM, Delirium wrote:
1) the sources really are *very* good in that case, not merely ok
sources like newspaper articles;
My own (admitedly radical) point of view is that popular media - and
that includes newspapers nowadays - are not reliable sources at all in
the first
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
On 03/07/2012 11:09 AM, Delirium wrote:
1) the sources really are *very* good in that case, not merely ok
sources like newspaper articles;
My own (admitedly radical) point of view is that popular media - and that
On 4 July 2012 00:04, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with Marc. The other day, someone said here on the list, It's
almost as if what the press say and what the facts are in reality are two
different things that have only a very tenuous relationship.
Yes, in response to you
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:15 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 July 2012 00:04, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with Marc. The other day, someone said here on the list, It's
almost as if what the press say and what the facts are in reality are two
different
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
On 03/07/2012 7:04 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
What would a Wikipedia look like that did not make use of press sources?
It
would look a hell of a lot more like an encyclopedia. Thousands of silly
arguments would never
On 03/07/2012 7:42 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
How would you deal with biographies of people like heads of state, who are
subjects of serious academic study as well as daily news articles?
There's nothing that prevents a subject from having an article in both
namespaces. One can be seen as the
On 4 July 2012 00:48, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
There's nothing that prevents a subject from having an article in both
namespaces. One can be seen as the complement of the other; mainspace would
become more encyclopedic and there would be a neat space where the more
recent
On 03/07/2012 7:49 PM, David Gerard wrote:
We could call it Wikinews.
Arguably, that was the intent behind that project in the first place.
That said, the news article format (as opposed to living prose) is
demonstrably not what the readers want - they already voted with their
browsers
On 4 July 2012 00:49, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 July 2012 00:48, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
There's nothing that prevents a subject from having an article in both
namespaces. One can be seen as the complement of the other; mainspace
would
become more
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
There's nothing that prevents a subject from having an article in both
namespaces. One can be seen as the complement of the other; mainspace would
become more encyclopedic and there would be a neat space where the more
. Encyclopedic worthiness of White House Thanksgiving 2009 Dinner
Table ? None at all.
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 12:02:46 +0100
From: t...@tommorris.org
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] crazy deletionists!
On Tuesday, 3 July 2012 at 10:15, Svip wrote:
I can't
Just think, in a few years we can set up the site to construct drafts for
the site that constructs drafts for Wikipedia.
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org
wrote:
There's nothing that
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