On 27/06/12 06:46, Nathan wrote:
It's simple. The WMF didn't do anything. The English Wikipedia did. That
project effectively changed the content of the entire encyclopedia for
political reasons.
Actually, the SOPA blackout notice was developed and deployed by WMF
staff.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Actually, the SOPA blackout notice was developed and deployed by WMF
staff.
Point of clarification:
Developed and deployed, yes - but at the request of the English Wikipedia
community, in the form of the RFC that
This must be the most misleading mailing list title I've seen in a
long time. Almost all of these tropes are untouched:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes?from=Main.RapeTropes
- it seems they just had a problem with Google withdrawing ad revenue
because they
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:10 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 June 2012 16:02, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote:
This must be the most misleading mailing list title I've seen in a
long time. Almost all of these tropes are untouched:
On 27 June 2012 16:30, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, they moved fast! I read the blog post and then went to check,
and found the supposedly deleted articles up, less than a full day
after the original mailing list email, so I assumed there had to be
some mistake. How
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
Further to Jimbo's championing O'Dwyer, here is the court document from
O'Dwyer's January extradition trial:
[snip]
It looks like these – rather than NPOV – are the values that Wikipedia has
been co-opted to
On Wednesday, 27 June 2012 at 17:56, Nathan wrote:
Jimmy is not Wikipedia. What about that is hard to understand?
The whole point about deliberate obfuscation is that it's supposed to blur that
line. ;-)
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Tom Morris
http://tommorris.org/
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Jimmy is not Wikipedia. What about that is hard to understand?
I would have agreed with you half a year ago. But Jimbo decided there would
be a SOPA blackout, and a SOPA blackout was had. And every press article
that mentions his campaign for O'Dwyer has the obligatory Wikipedia
founder label.
- Original Message -
From: Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com
To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:48 PM
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] O'Dwyer
Further to Jimbo's championing O'Dwyer, here is the court document from
O'Dwyer's January
On Wednesday, 27 June 2012 at 18:05, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
I would have agreed with you half a year ago. But Jimbo decided there would
be a SOPA blackout, and a SOPA blackout was had. And every press article
that mentions his campaign for O'Dwyer has the obligatory Wikipedia
founder label.
Jimmy's platform is Wikipedia.
The media struggle to seperate the two (note the connect back to SOPA
in this case)
Not that I agree entirely with Andreas. But certainly I think the
community could have a view on this.
Tom Morton
On 27 Jun 2012, at 18:01, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 June 2012 at 18:05, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
I would have agreed with you half a year ago. But Jimbo decided there
would
be a SOPA blackout, and a SOPA blackout was had. And every press article
that
Dominic - A fair point; this shoudl be clarified explicitly in the
description of AffCom work. The discussion in DC will touch on both,
but is mostly about getting AffCom underway. SJ
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Dominic McDevitt-Parks
mcdev...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for that
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 June 2012 18:51, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: And
hell, there really are two points of view about copyright,
I understand you've not really studied the subject but there are far
more than that.
Let's just
On 27 June 2012 21:25, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 June 2012 18:51, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: And
hell, there really are two points of view about copyright,
I understand you've not really
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
wrote:
On the topic of Jimmy; Wikipedia is his calling card, it opens doors. I
think he hasn't done enough in many situations to distance his own views
from us; which is unfortunate. But not necessarily deliberate :)
On 27 June 2012 21:25, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's just start with the notion that there might be more than just *one*
view. ;)
Why start there? Again I understand you haven't really studied
copyright but quite a few wikipedians have. So everything from
copyright maximalist
On 27 June 2012 22:05, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote:
attributed to the Wikipedia founder, then there really is no discernible
difference between his view and Wikipedia's, or Google's.
wikipedia doesn't really have views in the conventional sense. The
amorphous blob that is the
All,
FYI
The Board of Trustees passed a resolution extending and making
permanent the Board Visitors visitors program, which we tried out for
a one-year trial in 2011.
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Board_Visitors_%282012%29
The language is the same as that in the resolution
In what sense do these visitors have a one-year term when they are
actually just attending one meeting?
And why doesn't the board just allow anyone that wants to come along
to observe their meetings?
On 27 June 2012 23:58, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote:
All,
FYI
The Board of
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
In what sense do these visitors have a one-year term when they are
actually just attending one meeting?
In the sense that someone could attend any of the meetings happening
within that year, as agreed on by the board
On 28 Jun 2012, at 00:03, Thomas Dalton wrote:
In what sense do these visitors have a one-year term when they are
actually just attending one meeting?
And why doesn't the board just allow anyone that wants to come along
to observe their meetings?
+1. Compare and contrast with WMUK board
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote:
It would be interesting to see the community develop its own high
profile
media contacts so this view can be communicated to the world!
If Jimmy can write this in The Guardian (a paper which really seems
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote:
On 27/06/2012 12:10 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kim Bruningk...@bruning.xs4all.nl
wrote:
The SOPA strike was necessary for us to retain neutrality.
Figuratively speaking, or do you think it
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