Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 10/07/12 08:16, Milos Rancic wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: Okay, I'll bite. This is just my opinion and based on SOPA in the United States and what our government represents. Thanks! I am responding as a non-cognitivist moral skeptic nihilist. I thought

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Thomas Morton
On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic wrote: > In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike > against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russian). > Unless I am missing something key; whilst this is a crappy law, it is not much like SOPA/PIPA in that it doesn't seem to th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 10/07/12 07:58, Keegan Peterzell wrote: When we black-out one of our projects, we remove our ideal and the fundamental principle that we support the freedom of knowledge. What we do How come? It is exactly the black-out that supported the freedom of knowledge. it move the idea into the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 July 2012 09:22, Thomas Morton wrote: > On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic wrote: >> In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike >> against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russian). > Unless I am missing something key; whilst this is a crappy law, it is not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:22:12 +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic wrote: In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russian). Unless I am missing something key; whilst this is a crappy law, it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:22:12 +0100, Thomas Morton wrote: > >> On 9 July 2012 20:41, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> In less than half an hour Russian Wikipedia will go on one-day strike >>> against SOPA/PIPA-like law in Russia [1] (in Russ

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Declaring my candidacy

2012-07-10 Thread Michael Peel
I'm completely confused by your statement of candidacy, Sebastian. My understanding is the Secretary-General position is a *job* -- a paid position -- not an elected post. As such, there should be a proper recruitment process to appoint someone to the position, with a call for applications, rath

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 28 -- 09 July 2012

2012-07-10 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
Special report: Reforming the education programs: lessons from Cairo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-07-09/Special_report News and notes: Russian Wikipedia protest blackout; E3 team and new tools; Wikitravel proposal bogged down http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > > > I have to say, your comment reads like empty philosophizing. You are like > a person who doesn't have children because he is worried about > overpopulation - when it is exactly the people who are intelligent and > responsible enough to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 10/07/12 15:45, Keegan Peterzell wrote: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin The blackout was exactly the opposite. A little temporary (one day) safety (all the content was still available at c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Declaring my candidacy

2012-07-10 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Alice Wiegand wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > > > You would also have to accept that you are/will be part of the WMF board. > > You'd have access to less and in some case, more information, but not a > lot > > besides what people cho

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Tim Starling
On 10/07/12 18:22, Thomas Morton wrote: > Unless I am missing something key; whilst this is a crappy law, it is not > much like SOPA/PIPA in that it doesn't seem to threaten the existence of > Russian Wikipedia. SOPA didn't threaten the existence of Wikipedia, and neither did the proposed law in I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 July 2012 15:29, Tim Starling wrote: > SOPA didn't threaten the existence of Wikipedia, Geoff Brigham opined otherwise, IIRC. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia developers

2012-07-10 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, [cc:ing wikimedia-l because this message is also for Wikimedia users.] I've been asked to weigh in on this topic, because this is going to be an area of focus for me over the coming year. I've been tasked with improving the 2-way communication between users & developers, possibly using the wi

[Wikimedia-l] Chapter Report from Wikimedia España (april-june 2012)

2012-07-10 Thread Lucien leGrey
This is the chapter report of Wikimedia España for the months of April, May and June 2012. April - 30.03-01.04.2012: Participation at Wikimedia Conference in Berlin. - 12.04.2012: Talk about Wikipedia and Wikimedia at iParty "Wikipedia y Wikimedia, todo lo que siempre quisiste pregunta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Declaring my candidacy

2012-07-10 Thread cyrano
Le 10/07/2012 11:23, Samuel Klein a écrit : > I don't think we were... Theo, I'm not sure what board you are talking > about here :-) I'm baffled by the opacity of the administrative situation which makes it difficult even for high level, experienced and even specialized brains to manage to talk j

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Milos Rancic
ty, a sign that the legislation needs to be improved,” he tweeted on Tuesday morning." [1] [1] http://themoscownews.com/russia/20120710/189942195.html ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Tim Starling
On 11/07/12 00:32, David Gerard wrote: > On 10 July 2012 15:29, Tim Starling wrote: > >> SOPA didn't threaten the existence of Wikipedia, > > > Geoff Brigham opined otherwise, IIRC. Yes, on the basis that "Wikipedia arguably falls under the definition of an 'Internet search engine'".

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia goes on strike

2012-07-10 Thread Nathan
ion that it would be closed > down. But this step is an important reaction by society, a sign that > the legislation needs to be improved,” he tweeted on Tuesday morning." > [1] > > [1] http://themoscownews.com/russia/20120710/189942195.html > > Yes, very encouraging. We sho