Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: Jan Eissfeldt joins Wikimedia Foundation as Community Advocate

2013-04-26 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-26 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all, On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:39:55 +0200 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de wrote: Oh yes, this would really be great. Just think about the money the Foundation gives out meanwhile for translation, plus the many many volunteers' work invested into translation. A free and open translation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Jane Darnell
Perhaps you could just imitate the QRpedia model, which says, this article is not available in your default language, and serve up links to the languages it *IS* available in. After all, presence on Wikidata means presence on *at least one Wikipedia*, if I'm not mistaken. 2013/4/25, Erik Moeller

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-26 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-04-25 19:09, James Forrester a écrit : On 18 April 2013 17:32, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote: TL;DR: VisualEditor will be deployed on 14 new Wikipedias next week as an opt-in alpha. Your assitance is requested to inform your wikis about this and help get the software

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Jane Darnell, 26/04/2013 08:52: Perhaps you could just imitate the QRpedia model, which says, this article is not available in your default language, and serve up links to the languages it *IS* available in. This should definitely be done (as agreed in some Wikimania workshop a while ago) but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Jane Darnell
Hmm I was wondering about that - thanks for the clarification! I am not sure Wikidata will be a data farm that Google will want to index for general consumption, but time will tell...in the words of Gines de Pasamonte, it deals with facts, and facts so neat and diverting that no lies could match

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-26 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-04-25 20:56, Theo10011 a écrit : As far as Linguistic typology goes, it's far too unique and too varied to have a language independent form develop as easily. Perhaps it also depends on the perspective. For example, the majority of people commenting here (Americans, Europeans) might

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Delirium
This is a very interesting proposal. I think how well it will work may vary considerably based on the language. The strongest case in favor of machine-generating stubs, imo, is in languages where there are many monolingual speakers and the Wikipedia is already quite large and active. In that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-26 Thread Jane Darnell
We already have the translation options on the left side of the screen in any Wikipedia article. This choice is generally a smattering of languages, and a long term goal for many small-language Wikipedias is to be able to translate an article from related languages (say from Dutch into Frisian,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-26 Thread Benjamin Chen
I tested it on zh.wikipedia. Plain text are sometimes recognised as 'can't be edited with VisualEditor', Trying to insert/delete line breaks significantly messed up the page… not even sure how to file a bug because I can't properly describe the issue... Regards, Benjamin Chen /

[Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

2013-04-26 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
Hi, We are about to organize a wikiexpedition devoted to train infrastructure in Poland. It will be officially co-organised with Polish Railways. Polish Railways will provide us free tickets for traveling across Poland using any trains and special passes to legally enter and photograph rail

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata Stubs: Threat or Menace?

2013-04-26 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Since I was thinking about how to do this for some time, I wrote some developers' notes at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Article_generation so feel free to comment if anything is not clear or not desirable. On 26/04/13 14:10, Jane Darnell wrote: Well, I am going to come out

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

2013-04-26 Thread Matthew Roth
I'm also replying to say how awesome this initiative is! I only wish I had the flexibility and disposable income to come over and participate :) Have a great time with it and kudos for organizing such a cool trip. I need to see if Amtrak would be nearly as accommodating over here in the U.S.!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

2013-04-26 Thread Fae
Polish Railways will provide us free tickets excellent negotiation! Hey, train enthusiasts everywhere else (including the UK and USA) here is an incredibly tough target for the rest of us to try and beat. :-D Fae On 26 April 2013 15:19, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Deploying alpha of VisualEditor to non-English Wikipedias

2013-04-26 Thread James Forrester
On 26 April 2013 10:08, Takashi OTA supertakot+foundatio...@gmail.com wrote: I have been working on translation of Wikimedia Blog post written by James, into Japanese. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Try_out_the_alpha_version_of_the_VisualEditor,_now_in_15_languages To

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

2013-04-26 Thread geni
On 26 April 2013 18:05, Fae faewik+g...@gmail.com wrote: Polish Railways will provide us free tickets excellent negotiation! Hey, train enthusiasts everywhere else (including the UK and USA) here is an incredibly tough target for the rest of us to try and beat. :-D National Railway Museum

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

2013-04-26 Thread Fae
On 26 April 2013 18:25, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: National Railway Museum in york is free. LOL, but they have yet to match free tickets for traveling across sPoland/s the UK! For a railways related job interview, I once had travel-anywhere ticket (they were red back then) for free travel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-26 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Andrea Zanni wrote: At the moment, Wikisource could be a interesting corpora and laboratory for improving and enhancing OCR, as the OCR generated text is always proofread and corrected by humans. As part of our project ( http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource_vision_development), Micru was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

2013-04-26 Thread Victor Grigas
Awesome Project - I used to work at a railyard, I advise to please take the safety training seriously :) On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Fae fae...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 April 2013 18:25, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: National Railway Museum in york is free. LOL, but they have yet to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Train Wikiexpedition in Poland

2013-04-26 Thread Matthew Roth
and Tomasz, I do hope you'll consider a blog post about this for the Wikimedia Blog. Certainly at the end of the event, but if you are hoping to publicize the opportunity, you might also consider it before the event happens. More info on submitting material for the blog here:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-26 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@gmx.net wrote: * Erik Moeller wrote: Are there open source MT efforts that are close enough to merit scrutiny? Wiktionary. If you want to help free software efforts in the area of machine translation, then what they seem to need most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-26 Thread Milos Rancic
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Not just bootstrapping the content. By having the primary content be saved in a language independent form, and always translating it on the fly, it would not merely bootstrap content in different languages, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The case for supporting open source machine translation

2013-04-26 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Finding a way to capture and integrate the work OmegaWiki has done into a new Wikidata-powered Wiktionary would be a useful start. And we've already sort of claimed the space (though we are neglecting it) -- it's