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* Geoff Brigham wrote:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/14/prism-surveillance-wikimedia/
You are not making a good case there as to what to do and why and how
this community is affected and needs to act. An immediate question seems
to be whether the Wikimedia Foundation should become signatory
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:
PRISM
From @ShammaBoyarin on Twitter: Its not as if the NSA were mass
downloading articles from JSTOR.
Certainly if the evidence showed that the NSA were breaking into wiring
closets and hacking into computer
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Andy Mabbett
a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:
PRISM
From @ShammaBoyarin on Twitter: Its not as if the NSA were mass
downloading articles from JSTOR.
Certainly if the evidence showed that the NSA were breaking into wiring
closets and hacking into computer
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.netwrote:
(Yes, you can speculate that they're probably doing this too, but this
particular scandal is the NSA getting information from computer networks
with the permission of the computer owners, not despite the owners
Speaking as an individual and not on behalf of the chapter (and not as an
American obviously) I think this seems a proportional response but would
encourage everyone in the UK community to share their thoughts.
I think it would be naive to think this was not aimed at US citizens as
well, despite
Hoi,
From my perspective ... I live outside the USA, PRISM only brings the
American people the same surveillance the rest of the world has had for a
long time. The only difference is that the pretence that the US populace is
not watched is known to be a fiction.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 15 June
The reporting in the UK is that it is aimed at 'foreigners'. I think that
is us! Of course that may be for domestic US consumption.
On 15 June 2013 17:56, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
From my perspective ... I live outside the USA, PRISM only brings the
American
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Fred Bauder
fredb...@fairpoint.netwrote:
(Yes, you can speculate that they're probably doing this too, but
this
particular scandal is the NSA getting information from computer
networks
with the permission of the computer owners, not despite the owners
The reporting in the UK is that it is aimed at 'foreigners'. I think that
is us! Of course that may be for domestic US consumption.
Yes, the thing is, we are an international organization, and, frankly, we
don't vet people politically before they can create an account or edit.
Our trust system
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
The fact of the matter is that there would be a much bigger uproar if the
NSA were caught doing what Aaron Swartz did, on American soil against an
innocent American company. If NSA were caught breaking into wiring
Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
* Geoff Brigham wrote:
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/14/prism-surveillance-wikimedia/
You are not making a good case there as to what to do and why and how
this community is affected and needs to act. An immediate question seems
to be whether the Wikimedia Foundation
hi,
i saw on the wmf statement on meta that https everywhere should calm
people. thats a good start already. 3 years ago the EFF (electronic
frontier foundation) warned about https. Soghoian and Stamm write
about especially about certificate authorities (CA):
[...] Microsoft’s Root
Hi WCA and friends,
we will have a phone meeting on Sunday, 16th of June @ 19:00 UTC [1].
More details and the agenda can be found here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Meetings/2013-24
If you want to join, please contact me for the phone meeting number.
To try and keep the discussion in one place it would be great if
people could put their comments on the meta talk page (either as well
as the mailing list or as well as) I'm going to try and copy some
responses there (and from the blog) as well but possibly not
discussions as that gets more
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