Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] A decision in Commons regarding URAA affected files

2014-04-04 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Sorry, sent too fast. ;o) I think I need to explain the whole history of the issue. 1. On 22 February 2014, Alan started the Request for comment (RfC) on whether we should host URAA-affected files, and restored previously deleted ones (around 4,300 of them). [1] 2. On 28 February 2014, Tele

[Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread
Proposal: "Paid volunteers" should take care to identify themselves on Wikimedia Projects and discussions related to Wikimedia Projects. Sue Gardner's initial report by the WMF into the Belfer case makes a key decision that there must be effective processes for escalation of employee activities t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Perhaps I'm just being obtuse, but I'm a little unclear on the definition of a paid volunteer. Could you possibly try rephrasing it so that I'm more clear? pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T: 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paidvolunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread Peter Southwood
Not a conscript ;-) - Original Message - From: "Philippe Beaudette" To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paidvolunteers" Perhaps I'm just being obtuse, but I'm a little unclear on the de

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Symonds
A bit of unsolicited advice from a chapter staff member and long-time volunteer coming up. It doesn't represent my view on this proposal, but is, as I said, simply unsolicited advice! Feel free to ignore it if you want. Here we go... It seems to me that the term 'paid volunteer' is an oxymoron. A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread Gryllida
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, at 22:14, Fæ wrote: > *Definition of "paid volunteer":* > Paid volunteers are employees, contractors or part time contractors of > Wikimedia organizations or other organizations having agreements or > partnerships with Wikimedia. The paid volunteer contributes to Wikimedia > pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I can understand the sentiment and, it makes some sense. However, I do not like weasel words ... "paid employees".. Bah They are not volunteering. They are on a job, have a mission. I think that employees of any organisations may work for the benefit of bringing the sum of all knowledge toget

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread
On 4 April 2014 14:05, Richard Symonds wrote: ... > It seems to me that the term 'paid volunteer' is an oxymoron. ... Yes, it is oxymoronic, many common terms are, though I am open to an alternative form of words. I understand that volunteers who are also employees do not want to be required to a

[Wikimedia-l] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on April 09, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC

2014-04-04 Thread Runa Bhattacharjee
[x-posted] Hello, The Language Engineering team will be hosting the next monthly IRC office hour on Wednesday, April 9 2014 at 1700 UTC at #wikimedia-office. We will be discussing about our recent work and provide updates related to changes in the translation file format (PHP to JSON) for MediaW

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread
On 4 April 2014 14:33, Gryllida wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2014, at 22:14, Fæ wrote: >> *Definition of "paid volunteer":* >> Paid volunteers are employees, contractors or part time contractors of >> Wikimedia organizations or other organizations having agreements or >> partnerships with Wikimedia. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread Richard Symonds
Just a quick correction, you say that "Even a paid researcher on a university project would not meet this definition, unless the project were part funded or in partnership with Wikimedia. " This is not quite accurate: even a student on a university project would meet this definition if his univers

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread
On 04/04/2014, Richard Symonds wrote: > Just a quick correction, you say that "Even a paid researcher on a > university project would not meet this definition, unless the project were > part funded or in partnership with Wikimedia. " > > This is not quite accurate: even a student on a university p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, In 2007, there was some significant conflict on the French Wkipedia, when people working for the nuclear industry edited related articles, and denied anyone without a PhD on nuclear physics any autority about this subject. Further more they refused any reference from outside the nuclear indust

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal: Transparency for Wikimedia "paid volunteers"

2014-04-04 Thread
Yann, the nuclear industry controversy was more the issue of control/ownership of content (which can happen on Commons, for example the news today about attempts to restrict reuse of Barack Obama's image). It is a tangent to this proposal. If you have other examples and think current project polici

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quarterly reviews of high priority WMF initiatives

2014-04-04 Thread Tilman Bayer
Minutes and slides from Monday's quarterly review meeting of the Foundation's Analytics team are now available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/Quarterly_reviews/Analytics/March_2014 . On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > Hi folks, > > to increa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF FDC Proposal: we invite your participation

2014-04-04 Thread James Salsman
Hi Geoff, Your link to http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=120703,00.html in [1], which is cited in turn at [2], is dead, and archive.org won't show me what it used to be for some reason. Do you please have a current link for the IRS regulations concerning political advocacy by

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF FDC Proposal: we invite your participation

2014-04-04 Thread Pete Forsyth
James, do we need to take Geoff's time up with something so thoroughly documented elsewhere? I'd suggest starting with this web site: http://www.clpi.org/ Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:17 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > Your link to > http://www.irs.gov/charities/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF FDC Proposal: we invite your participation

2014-04-04 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:17 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > Your link to > http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=120703,00.html > in [1], which is cited in turn at [2], is dead, and archive.org won't show > me what it used to be for some reason. Just on a technical note, I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF FDC Proposal: we invite your participation

2014-04-04 Thread James Salsman
Thanks, Tillman, I still get the error below and a timeout from archive.org, so a Wikimedia annotated copy would really help. I am specifically interested in which items in http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/advocacy_advisors/2014-March/000420.html are precluded. " We have redesigned the IRS.go

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-04-04 Thread Russavia
Sue, I, as well as others, are wondering whether you will be responding to the questions and other concerns which have been raised on this list? Members of the BoT, I would like to enquire as to when the Board of Trustees became aware of this issue for the first time. Could we get some statement