Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Leigh Thelmadatter
I voiced my opposition to the statement on Facebook but Yair states the case far more eloquently. Many acts by many countries could be a possible threat to Wikimedia, where do we draw the line? Why was there no community discussion prior to the statement? Sent from my iPhone > On 02/02/2017,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Natacha Rault
Had the WMF statement been issued on Wikipedia, now that would have neutrality issues from a wikioedian point of view. The WMF is not Wikipedia, and does have a political activity: being in favour of sharing free knowledge is altogether a political statement, as freedom of sharing knowledge is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread MZMcBride
Hi Yair, I agree with your underlying sentiment. When we look at threats facing the Wikimedia movement, I continue to think that the risk of people being able to inject their national and identity politics into the movement is pretty great. While I may personally agree with many of the views

Re: [Wikimedia-l] guidance from Foundation leadership as to where to draw the line on policy requests?

2017-02-02 Thread Todd Allen
So now I'm put into the awkward position of having to agree with essentially everything the post said, and still have to disagree with it having been made. The WMF should not be taking political stances without input and consensus from the community. Period. If it thought it needed to in this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Andrea Zanni
Having a global and diverse movement means finding value, albeit implicitly, in diversity (of language, sex, gender, culture, pov). The NPOV is not a "null" concept: it means giving weight to different point of views, merge them together to find a balanced article on something. Mostly, we as a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] guidance from Foundation leadership as to where to draw the line on policy requests?

2017-02-02 Thread MZMcBride
James Salsman wrote: >I can not in good conscience refrain from asking the Foundation management >and Board to please take an exceptional, public, very visible stand in >response to these extraordinarily exceptional circumstances. > >[...] > >If those of you who find my requests uncomfortable do

[Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Yair Rand
The Wikimedia movement is both global and very ideologically diverse, and has many contributors who have strong opinions in one direction or another on certain political issues facing their area of the world. Many of these contributors find it difficult to avoid using Wikimedia forums and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Gnangarra
The WMF has an obligation to respond to any changes where its based that impact on the movement or potentially impact on the movement, and that includes staff members or operational activities under taken. It cant respond to such changes without taking a POV regardless of the situation its not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] guidance from Foundation leadership as to where to draw the line on policy requests?

2017-02-02 Thread Bill Takatoshi
On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Michael Peel wrote: > Have you seen Katherine's statement at: > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/01/30/knowledge-knows-no-boundaries/ That statement is well worth reading. It says, "we believe in a world that encourages and protects the open

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Danish Wikipedia turns 15

2017-02-02 Thread Biplab Anand
Congrats!! Best Biplab On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Àlex Hinojo wrote: > Happy birthday! > El dj, 2 febr 2017 a les 0:47 Asaf Bartov va > escriure: > > > Congratulations, dawiki! :) > > > > A. > > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 3:23 PM attolippip

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Danish Wikipedia turns 15

2017-02-02 Thread NC Hasive
Congratulations! -Hasive On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Biplab Anand wrote: > Congrats!! > > Best > Biplab > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Àlex Hinojo wrote: > > > Happy birthday! > > El dj, 2 febr 2017 a les 0:47 Asaf Bartov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] guidance from Foundation leadership as to where to draw the line on policy requests?

2017-02-02 Thread Natacha Rault
I really want to thank the Wikimedia foundation and Katherine Maher for taking such a clear position on this matter. Kind ragards, Natacha Rault / Nattes à chat > Le 2 févr. 2017 à 07:48, Bill Takatoshi a écrit : > > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Michael Peel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As a movement we have several policies that can be contradictory. We want to be inclusive, have a neutral point of view but at the same time we want facts to be supported by sources. For many things there are contradictory sources and for many things there are additional sources. With the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the 2017-18 Ombuds Commission

2017-02-02 Thread NC Hasive
Congratulations all! Hasive WMBD On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:27 PM, Sydney Poore wrote: > Congratulation to Vogone, Lankiveil, Góngora, Richwales, Krd for their > appointment to Ombuds Commission, and to returning as members Pajz,Alan, > Rubin16, Polimerek. > > And thank

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: Abraham Taherivand appointed permanent Executive Director

2017-02-02 Thread Bijay chaurasia
Congratulations Abraham & WMDE  Regards, *Bijay Chaurasia* On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Abraham Taherivand < abraham.taheriv...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Dear all, > > thank you for all the kind wishes and congratulations! > > I especially thank our Board for their confidence and their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free culture, Mission to empower, and Community Process Steering Committee

2017-02-02 Thread Richard Ames
Please don't answer these questions (at least to the list). James - I have put you on moderation. Please desist with direct questions to other list members and avoid the use of the personal pronoun 'you'. Please focus on the purpose of this list --- as listed in the links at the bottom of every

[Wikimedia-l] Free culture, Mission to empower, and Community Process Steering Committee

2017-02-02 Thread James Salsman
Thyge, Craig, Dan, Rogol, Max, Neil, Mike, Ryan, Pete, Yair, and Leigh, here are some questions I'd like you to answer, neither of which are rhetorical: First, what attracts you to the free culture movement? What freedoms do you personally hold as ideal? Finally, what does the Foundation's

[Wikimedia-l] February 2: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#5)

2017-02-02 Thread Katherine Maher
Hello everyone! The update the past two weeks were delayed while I joined members of our African community in Ghana for WikiIndaba 2017 and participated in organization-wide quarterly reviews. This is a long email. In summary, you will find information on: - The core movement strategy team

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Politics

2017-02-02 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Here is my two cents: Most of criticism I saw boils down to these ones: - It's politics and we should not make political statements: It's not just political anymore, it's a humanitarian crisis. Handcuffing a five-year-old boy in airport because of the country he was born is inhumane. Let's not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Danish Wikipedia turns 15

2017-02-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 01:22:47 +0200 attolippip wrote: > Happy Birthday! ;) > > Best regards, > antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv > Congratulations and happy birthday. -- - Shlomi Fish

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Danish Wikipedia turns 15

2017-02-02 Thread Sailesh Patnaik
Congratulations, and happy birthday from Odia Wikipedia community :) On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 at 7:42 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 01:22:47 +0200 > > attolippip wrote: > > > > > Happy Birthday! ;) > > > > > > Best regards, > > > antanana /

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Save the dates: WikiCite 2017 • Vienna, May 23-25, 2017

2017-02-02 Thread Lodewijk
Hey Dario, great to see you're working on this! It's a very important and key topic to our movement, and deserves the dedicated attention. Especially interested in the policy discussions! Best, Lodewijk 2017-02-02 4:05 GMT+01:00 Dario Taraborelli : > It's been a