Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-27 Thread Chris Keating
So it seems that the main rationale for an annual Wikimania brought up in the 2016 meeting was that Wikimania was vital for movement governance and accountability. Which wasn't particularly stressed in the WMF's consultation, but I can see why that kind of issue was very fresh in peoples' minds in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Asaf Bartov
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:07 PM Devouard (gmail) wrote: > I think it is a very good move. > > Berlin conference has a big default, which is that, contrariwise to our > mouvement, it is not inclusive. This is a closed conference where only > specific people may go. That naturally let out a whole l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Nicole Ebber
Hi Chris, I can comment on your question why we need another strategy conference: The Wikimedia 2030 process is ongoing, and is building – among many other inputs – upon the outcomes of the last two conferences. Organized groups are already working on the implementation of the Strategic Direction

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
This is very remarkable that nobody is actually interested in input from what the WMF functionaries now call "unorganized volunteers" - people who actually work in the projects. We are just not in the picture. Good luck with that. Do not be surprised to see a huge number of volunteers to oppose the

[Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Michał Buczyński
Hi Yaroslav, I find your concern important so let me attempt to refine it to discussion points or a call for action. :) Firstly, I think it is unwise to assume what "everyone is interested in". You don't know personally all the people in the Movement, e.g. me and my interests. If you meant s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Yaroslav Blanter
Hi Michal, thank you for your reaction. No, I am personally not interested in attending the Wikimedia conference or whatever name it has now. I am unhappy with that, from my viewpoint, the opinions of what is called unorganized volunteers is discarded. - On stage 1, I participated in some discuss

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Call for Proposals to Host Wikimania in 2020

2018-09-27 Thread James Heilman
The Wikimedia Conference is "closed" in that only those who are invited are allowed to attend. Wikimania is an open conference meaning basically anyone can attend, including those currently outside the movement. I view a global conference as critical to our long term success. Well most of what we a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to the September 2018 Wikimedia Monthly Activities Meeting: Thursday, September 27, 18:00 UTC

2018-09-27 Thread Sasha Redkina
REMINDER: This meeting starts in 20 minutes. Sasha Redkina Front Office Coordinator *The Wikimedia Foundation* www.wikimediafoundation.org On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 2:45 PM Sasha Redkina wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > The next Wikimedia Monthly Activities meeting will take place on Thursday, > S

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Odp: Re: Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
I second Yaroslav here. Last year it was very obvious how disconnected was that strategy thing with the communities that actually build the projects. All that reached wiki.pt were kind of obvious generalities without much to tell about, which were generally ignored by the community. The Strategy Wo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Conference 2019: New name, new concept, eligbility criteria

2018-09-27 Thread effe iets anders
Hi Cornelius, a quick sanity check (sorry if this was already discussed): in your overview, you don't mention any WMF staff members as such. Is that because they won't be invited in that capacity (i.e. not including staff members that happen to be in affcom, that are affiliate representatives or a