Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation

2015-04-29 Thread Anthony Cole
Excellent. Thank's Philippe. On Thursday, April 30, 2015, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > That would be Kim Gilbey, who has been guiding us through the consultation > and the development of the strategic priorities. We had a meeting about it > this morning, in fact. Further information is coming s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation

2015-04-29 Thread Philippe Beaudette
That would be Kim Gilbey, who has been guiding us through the consultation and the development of the strategic priorities. We had a meeting about it this morning, in fact. Further information is coming soon, I hope. pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Founda

[Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation

2015-04-29 Thread Anthony Cole
Who has been tasked with summarising the themes in the feedback from the 2-week community consultation that was held in February/March? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Strategy/Community_consultation Anthony Cole _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-19 Thread Andrew Gray
Do we have an idea of the time commitment needed - X months of full-time work? (Potentially more now than it took first time around). Might be something which would justify an IEG grant, or a similar small grant from an external body... Andrew. On 18 March 2015 at 16:38, David Gerard wrote: > On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 20:41, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : On 15-03-18 02:19 PM, Mathias Damour wrote: [...] the content must be appropriate for children [...] The problem is exactly that. What is or is not "appropriate for children" is an inherently *political* question, the answer to which is inherent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
I'm not dismissing other approaches! I'm noting one approach that did work :-) On 18 March 2015 at 20:02, Mathias Damour wrote: > Le 18/03/2015 16:23, David Gerard a écrit : >> >> http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. >> We should give this project more love and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 15:02, Amir E. Aharoni a écrit : Both were printed in Russian in the Soviet Union, so they also had, um, ideological adaptations, which I was smart enough to spot (yay for me), but the reason I loved it is that it had large illustrations, clear and large font and engaging language.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 16:23, David Gerard a écrit : http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. We should give this project more love and assistance, it's basically the refutation of all attempts to, er, filter the base product. Teachers love it, what about children? Le 1

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 13:59, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : On 15-03-18 03:09 AM, Mathias Damour wrote: [from the Convention on the Rights of the Child] "[...] this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds" Interestingly enough, to me this reads /against/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2015 at 16:07, Richard Symonds wrote: > Indeed. http://schools-wikipedia.org is already used around the world - > it's a great example of what can be done if Wikimedians work with (even > passively with) other orgs. Everyone likes it, not many are coming forward to lead the ongoing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 March 2015 at 14:02, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > But TLDR - a Wikpedia *adapted* for children is a good idea. http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And teachers LOVE it. We should give this project more love and assistance, it's basically the refutation of all attempts to, er, f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I'd be the most vocal opponent of an encyclopedia *censored* for children. But I would be a very vocal proponent of an encyclopedia *adapted* for children. Not by dumbing it down and not by removing information that some cultures, religions or governments consider immoral or mature-audiences-only,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread
On 18 March 2015 at 12:59, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > For instance, would a Russian Kids' Wikipedia carefully avoid "promotion > of homosexuality" as their law now demands (to pick one salient example > amongst thousands). Yes it would. Though this has been bounced about as a project for many ye

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 15-03-18 03:09 AM, Mathias Damour wrote: > [from the Convention on the Rights of the Child] > "[...] this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart > information and ideas of all kinds" Interestingly enough, to me this reads /against/ the idea of a "Wikipedia for Kids" insofar as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-18 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 18/03/2015 02:32, Samuel Klein a écrit : Thanks for summarizing this, Mathias. I love the work that has been done so far on Wikikids, and think WMF should think about creative ways to make such projects successful. Gathering knowledge for all audiences requires simpler language than most wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-17 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks for summarizing this, Mathias. I love the work that has been done so far on Wikikids, and think WMF should think about creative ways to make such projects successful. Gathering knowledge for all audiences requires simpler language than most wikipedias have; and building a culture of contri

[Wikimedia-l] 2015 Strategy/Community consultation on the "Wikipedia for children" idea

2015-03-17 Thread Mathias Damour
Hi, They were quite a few expressed thoughts on the 2015 Strategy - Community consultation that raised in a way or another the idea of a "Wikipedia for children". I've made some excerpt of them on the following page : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikikids/Excerpt_from_the_2015_Strategy/Com