Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: > >> The *real* issue though, is that Wikimedia lives on >> trust,depends on the integrity of the internet. All >> intelligent kids moving onto black nets; tight beam >> Line of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > The *real* issue though, is that Wikimedia lives on > trust,depends on the integrity of the internet. All > intelligent kids moving onto black nets; tight beam > Line of Sight Only UV-beam connections, means > they are going be much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: > >> First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be >> Yet Another Attempt >> to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of >> IP

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Mono
What about the ocean? On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: > >> First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be >> Yet Another Attempt >> to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > On 17 April 2012 19:52, David Gerard wrote: > >> On 17 April 2012 20:32, Todd Allen wrote: >> >> > Would it be possible to get enough other sites behind another protest? >> > The last one didn't succeed just because of Wikipedia, it succeeded

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Kirill Lokshin
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be > Yet Another Attempt > to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of > IP legislation by inserting > it as a rider to law supposedly inten

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 17 April 2012 19:52, David Gerard wrote: > On 17 April 2012 20:32, Todd Allen wrote: > > > Would it be possible to get enough other sites behind another protest? > > The last one didn't succeed just because of Wikipedia, it succeeded > > because there were so many. > > > I think you're dead w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Mark Jaroski wrote: > I've been slow to come around to this one myself, but in the last day or so > I've realized that it really is the same thing with a new name. They going > to keep this up until we get tired, I suppose. > > So let's not get tired. There is an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Mark Jaroski
I've been slow to come around to this one myself, but in the last day or so I've realized that it really is the same thing with a new name. They going to keep this up until we get tired, I suppose. So let's not get tired. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2012 20:32, Todd Allen wrote: > Would it be possible to get enough other sites behind another protest? > The last one didn't succeed just because of Wikipedia, it succeeded > because there were so many. I think you're dead wrong there. Wikipedia was the only non-geek site that gave

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Thomas Morton
Can you at least tone down the rhetoric. That's probably the main reason few have responded yet. Tom Morton On 17 Apr 2012, at 20:38, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Todd Allen wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen >> wrote: >>> On T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Todd Allen wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Mono wrote: Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing...

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Todd Allen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Todd Allen wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Mono wrote: >>> Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing... >>> >>> On Monday, April 16, 2012, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Todd Allen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Mono wrote: >> Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing... >> >> On Monday, April 16, 2012, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: >> >>> First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-17 Thread Todd Allen
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Mono wrote: > Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing... > > On Monday, April 16, 2012, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > >> First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be >> Yet Another Attempt >> to enact draconian legislati

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-16 Thread Mono
Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing... On Monday, April 16, 2012, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: > First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be > Yet Another Attempt > to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of > IP legislat

[Wikimedia-l] Facebook goes turncoat on the "squash internet freedom" battle.

2012-04-16 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be Yet Another Attempt to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of IP legislation by inserting it as a rider to law supposedly intended to help in combatting Cyber-terrorism: CISPA. From the link below: ‎