[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-28 Thread Christophe Henner
Am I the only one not shocked that in a time where there is a huge change happening in Movement governance (Global Council) the board is actually not committing to any sélection process? I mean in two years time the whole movement power structures and dynamics could be immensely different from

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Dariusz, Many thanks for your reply. I wasn't really interested in having you confirm a commitment to conduct future (s)elections in any particular way – I was only interested in having you confirm the *absence* of any commitment to conduct a free community election in 2024, along the lines of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-27 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Hi Andreas, a quick and short response: we do not provide a response on a thing that has not been collectively discussed. That's a standard that should be kept, and the organization of elections is definitely something that needs discussing every time they happen (the procedure involves several

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-27 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Dariusz and all, Since this thread started, I (and several others) have asked in multiple locations whether the WMF can promise that when the four formerly community-selected seats come up for re-selection in 2024, community members will be given a free vote. This question seemed particularly

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-24 Thread Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
Last year the community voted that way putting diverse candidates at 5th and 6th position because the election method could not work properly, even assuming (as it was) a general attempt of diverse choice by the electorate. The main issue was in the low threshold for the candidatures. As soon

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-24 Thread Todd Allen
No. I would prefer them to be selected in open, at-large elections, as they should have been in previous years. On Sun, Apr 24, 2022, 04:25 Chris Keating wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 1:13 AM Todd Allen wrote: > >> Yes, and let me say it in stronger terms: This is unacceptable. >>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-24 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:40 AM Chris Keating wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:32 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > >> There is no longer any distinction between community and affiliate >> trustees. For reference, see the "Type of seat" column in the current board >> member table on Meta, as well as

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-24 Thread Uwe Herzke
I've asked for the reasons to mix those two totally different type of seats in 2021 on the discussion page of the board[1], but I never got any answer besides ''the board decided this way'', which is in no way a valid decision process for community matters in the Wikiverse. I've asked again on

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-24 Thread Chris Keating
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 1:13 AM Todd Allen wrote: > Yes, and let me say it in stronger terms: This is unacceptable. > Community-selected seats have nothing to do with affiliates; affiliates are > absolutely not the community. Community-selected seats must be an at-large > election from Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-24 Thread Chris Keating
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:32 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Chris, > > There is no longer any distinction between community and affiliate > trustees. For reference, see the "Type of seat" column in the current board > member table on Meta, as well as the footnote under the table.[1] > > What Dariusz

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-23 Thread Todd Allen
Yes, and let me say it in stronger terms: This is unacceptable. Community-selected seats have nothing to do with affiliates; affiliates are absolutely not the community. Community-selected seats must be an at-large election from Wikimedia editors from any candidate who cares to run, not taken from

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-23 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Chris, There is no longer any distinction between community and affiliate trustees. For reference, see the "Type of seat" column in the current board member table on Meta, as well as the footnote under the table.[1] What Dariusz has announced here is a new process for determining

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-23 Thread Chris Keating
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 1:32 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Dear Dariusz, > > I am surprised your post has not attracted more attention. It's probably > because you did not spell out what the adopted recommendation involves. It > says (my emphases):[1] > > > *The Board of Trustees wants to improve

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2022 election - updates

2022-04-23 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Dear Dariusz, I am surprised your post has not attracted more attention. It's probably because you did not spell out what the adopted recommendation involves. It says (my emphases):[1] *The Board of Trustees wants to improve the set of skills and the diversity contributed by newly selected