Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-08 Thread Erik Bernhardson 
The instance is back up after a labs admin restarted the instance for me.
Everything started correctly on boot as expected.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 11:44 PM, John Mark Vandenberg 
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Lodewijk 
> wrote:
> > Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea
> > pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be
> > an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any
> mailing
> > list of some size would do.
>
> wikisource-l was interested, but is concerned about whether high
> fidelity dumps of Discourse could be made available in a standard
> format.
>
> --
> John Vandenberg
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Lodewijk 
Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea
pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be
an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any mailing
list of some size would do.

Lodewijk

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Erik Bernhardson  wrote:

> The instance looks to be in a 'SHUTOFF' state, this has happened before (to
> other instances) for a variety of reasons, such as a vm moving between
> hosts and something goes wrong. There arn't any labs admins around right
> now, i'll have one look tomorrow morning and turn it back on.
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Àlex Hinojo  wrote:
>
> > +1 502 to me also
> >
> > 2016-02-08 6:48 GMT+01:00 Chris Schilling :
> >
> > > Hey Ad,
> > >
> > > I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access
> > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.  Not sure if this is a general error
> > with
> > > wmflabs or something specific to Discourse.
> > >
> > > - Jethro
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
> > > >
> > > > One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to
> experiment
> > > with
> > > > a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at
> > > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson.
> > > > In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have
> > > been
> > > > taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted
> > results
> > > > of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users
> thanking
> > on
> > > > different wikis.
> > > > On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual
> posts.
> > > > Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default
> and
> > > > automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see
> > > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
> > > >
> > > > For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it
> has
> > > to
> > > > be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to
> > > read
> > > > posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail,
> > > without
> > > > having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at
> > > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in
> > > their
> > > > mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia
> Discourse
> > > > users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of
> Wikimedia
> > > > Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is
> missing
> > > at
> > > > Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does
> > have.
> > > > Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover
> > the
> > > > extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars
> > for
> > > > example, isn't that nice?
> > > >
> > > > Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your
> > > > mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any
> Wikimedia
> > > > wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list
> > you
> > > > will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman
> will
> > > > mail you a password. If you want to sign up at
> > > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail
> address
> > > and
> > > > pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between
> > > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any
> > Wikimedia
> > > > wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the
> > > > wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or
> Oauth
> > > 1.0
> > > > or Oauth 2.0 can be found at
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691
> > .
> > > > Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0
> > > plugin
> > > > for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for
> > moving
> > > > MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO
> or
> > > > Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful
> pilot.
> > > >
> > > > Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now
> > > > configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can
> be
> > > > discussed:
> > > > * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
> > > > * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
> > > > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
> > > > and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at
> > > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Ad Huikeshoven
> > > > ___
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> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
> > > > New messages to:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread John Mark Vandenberg 
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Lodewijk  wrote:
> Is there any progress on finding a mailing list that likes to be guinnea
> pig (a.k.a. innovation leader) and try it out? I don't think it has to be
> an alternative for this particular mailing list in this phase, any mailing
> list of some size would do.

wikisource-l was interested, but is concerned about whether high
fidelity dumps of Discourse could be made available in a standard
format.

-- 
John Vandenberg

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[Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Ad Huikeshoven 
Hello readers of wikimedia-l,

One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment with
a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at
https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson.
In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have been
taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted results
of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking on
different wikis.
On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts.
Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and
automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see
https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.

For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has to
be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to read
posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail, without
having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at
https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in their
mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse
users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia
Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing at
Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does have.
Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover the
extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars for
example, isn't that nice?

Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your
mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia
wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list you
will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will
mail you a password. If you want to sign up at
https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address and
pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between
https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any Wikimedia
wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the
wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth 1.0
or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691.
Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0 plugin
for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for moving
MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or
Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot.

Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now
configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.

Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be
discussed:
* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at
https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.

Best regards,

Ad Huikeshoven
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Erik Bernhardson 
The instance looks to be in a 'SHUTOFF' state, this has happened before (to
other instances) for a variety of reasons, such as a vm moving between
hosts and something goes wrong. There arn't any labs admins around right
now, i'll have one look tomorrow morning and turn it back on.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Àlex Hinojo  wrote:

> +1 502 to me also
>
> 2016-02-08 6:48 GMT+01:00 Chris Schilling :
>
> > Hey Ad,
> >
> > I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access
> > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.  Not sure if this is a general error
> with
> > wmflabs or something specific to Discourse.
> >
> > - Jethro
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
> >
> > > Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
> > >
> > > One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment
> > with
> > > a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at
> > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson.
> > > In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have
> > been
> > > taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted
> results
> > > of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking
> on
> > > different wikis.
> > > On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts.
> > > Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and
> > > automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see
> > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
> > >
> > > For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has
> > to
> > > be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to
> > read
> > > posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail,
> > without
> > > having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at
> > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in
> > their
> > > mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse
> > > users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia
> > > Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing
> > at
> > > Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does
> have.
> > > Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover
> the
> > > extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars
> for
> > > example, isn't that nice?
> > >
> > > Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your
> > > mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia
> > > wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list
> you
> > > will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will
> > > mail you a password. If you want to sign up at
> > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address
> > and
> > > pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between
> > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any
> Wikimedia
> > > wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the
> > > wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth
> > 1.0
> > > or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691
> .
> > > Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0
> > plugin
> > > for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for
> moving
> > > MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or
> > > Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot.
> > >
> > > Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now
> > > configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
> > >
> > > Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be
> > > discussed:
> > > * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
> > > * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
> > > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
> > > and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at
> > > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Ad Huikeshoven
> > > ___
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> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
> > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,
> > > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > I JethroBT (WMF) 
> > Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation
> > 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Chris Schilling 
Hey Ad,

I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access
https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.  Not sure if this is a general error with
wmflabs or something specific to Discourse.

- Jethro

On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:

> Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
>
> One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment with
> a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at
> https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson.
> In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have been
> taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted results
> of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking on
> different wikis.
> On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts.
> Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and
> automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see
> https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
>
> For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has to
> be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to read
> posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail, without
> having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at
> https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in their
> mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse
> users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia
> Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing at
> Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does have.
> Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover the
> extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars for
> example, isn't that nice?
>
> Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your
> mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia
> wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list you
> will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will
> mail you a password. If you want to sign up at
> https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address and
> pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between
> https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any Wikimedia
> wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the
> wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth 1.0
> or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691.
> Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0 plugin
> for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for moving
> MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or
> Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot.
>
> Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now
> configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
>
> Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be
> discussed:
> * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
> * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
> * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
> and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at
> https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ad Huikeshoven
> ___
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> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanks, likes and progress on Wikimedia Discourse pilot

2016-02-07 Thread Àlex Hinojo 
+1 502 to me also

2016-02-08 6:48 GMT+01:00 Chris Schilling :

> Hey Ad,
>
> I'm getting a 502 Bad Gateway error when trying to access
> https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.  Not sure if this is a general error with
> wmflabs or something specific to Discourse.
>
> - Jethro
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Ad Huikeshoven  wrote:
>
> > Hello readers of wikimedia-l,
> >
> > One of the outcomes of the 'better thankspam' thread was to experiment
> with
> > a pilot installationg of Discourse. This has been set up at
> > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ by Erik Bernhardson.
> > In the past weeks a couple of dozen of people have signed in and have
> been
> > taking a look around. In a recent thread on wikimedia-l Fæ posted results
> > of SQL queries of number of users thanked and number of users thanking on
> > different wikis.
> > On Discourse users can like (by clicking a heart) for individual posts.
> > Number of hearts received and number of hearts given are by default and
> > automatically counted by Discourse, and these numbers are public, see
> > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/users?period=yearly.
> >
> > For the Wikimedia Discourse installation to be a succesful pilot it has
> to
> > be a real alternative for the wikimedia-l mailing list. Users want to
> read
> > posts in their mail, and want to be able to reply to posts by mail,
> without
> > having to visit the site. Users who have signed up at
> > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ will receive new posts by default in
> their
> > mailbox. Mail preferences can be individually set. Wikimedia Discourse
> > users can reply by mail to posts received by mail. Members of Wikimedia
> > Discourse can mail new posts. Please let me know if anything is missing
> at
> > Wikimedia Discourse that the current wikimedia-l mailing list does have.
> > Sign up for an account at https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ to discover the
> > extras Discourse offers. Wikimedia Discourse users can earn barnstars for
> > example, isn't that nice?
> >
> > Please note that by subscribing to the wikimedia-l mailing list your
> > mailing list subscription isn't linked to any account at any Wikimedia
> > wiki, neither is your mail address. For the wikimedia-l mailing list you
> > will have to provide a mail address and after confirmation mailman will
> > mail you a password. If you want to sign up at
> > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ you will have to provide a mail address
> and
> > pick a password yourself. Currently their is no link between
> > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/ accounts and any account at any Wikimedia
> > wiki, nor is their link with mail addresses, just like it as with the
> > wikimedia-l mailing list. A phabricator ticket requesting SSO or Oauth
> 1.0
> > or Oauth 2.0 can be found at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124691.
> > Currently there are no resources available for writing an Oauth 1.0
> plugin
> > for Wikimedia Discourse, neither are there resources available for moving
> > MediaWiki authentification from Oauth 1.0 to Oauth 2.0. As said, SSO or
> > Oauth is a 'nice to have' and doesn't have to block a succesful pilot.
> >
> > Secure communication is a must. The Discourse installation is now
> > configured to default to use SSL, so you will always see https://.
> >
> > Here is a short list of places where the Discourse installation can be
> > discussed:
> > * https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Discourse
> > * https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Discourse
> > * https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124690
> > and of course at the wikimedia-l mailing list and at
> > https://discourse.wmflabs.org/.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Ad Huikeshoven
> > ___
> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines
> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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> > 
>
>
>
>
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> Community Organizer, Wikimedia Foundation
> 
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