Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W 
Yes thank you for sharing, and I apologize if I sound short-tempered, but
this is the kind of report I am used to reading from consultants and I lost
patience with them a long time ago. (:

Pine


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Pierre-Selim 
wrote:

> Thank you Alice for sharing this with the community.
>
>
> 2014-07-09 9:56 GMT+02:00 Pine W :
>
> > I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
> > needs people with management expertise.
> >
> > Pine
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ  wrote:
> >
> > > On 09/07/2014, Pine W  wrote:
> > > > I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can
> > someone
> > > > explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what
> > the
> > > > different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what
> does
> > > > "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?
> > >
> > > Examples include:
> > >
> > > * "Gender diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> > > counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
> > > maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
> > > people. The "board as a whole" might mean that the count is of people
> > > who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.
> > >
> > > * "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> > > counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
> > > many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
> > > travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
> > > "Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole" which is
> > > counted as a second thingy.
> > >
> > > * "Visionary creative drive" - this appears to be classic management
> > > speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
> > > "visionaries", it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
> > > Boards benefit from having several people who are not "creative" (that
> > > can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
> > > giving some oversight for the annual accounts).
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pierre-Selim 
Thank you Alice for sharing this with the community.


2014-07-09 9:56 GMT+02:00 Pine W :

> I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
> needs people with management expertise.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ  wrote:
>
> > On 09/07/2014, Pine W  wrote:
> > > I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can
> someone
> > > explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what
> the
> > > different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
> > > "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?
> >
> > Examples include:
> >
> > * "Gender diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> > counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
> > maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
> > people. The "board as a whole" might mean that the count is of people
> > who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.
> >
> > * "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> > counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
> > many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
> > travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
> > "Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole" which is
> > counted as a second thingy.
> >
> > * "Visionary creative drive" - this appears to be classic management
> > speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
> > "visionaries", it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
> > Boards benefit from having several people who are not "creative" (that
> > can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
> > giving some oversight for the annual accounts).
> >
> > Fae
> > --
> > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W 
I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
needs people with management expertise.

Pine


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ  wrote:

> On 09/07/2014, Pine W  wrote:
> > I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
> > explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
> > different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
> > "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?
>
> +1
>
> Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?
>
> Examples include:
>
> * "Gender diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
> maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
> people. The "board as a whole" might mean that the count is of people
> who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.
>
> * "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
> counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
> many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
> travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
> "Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole" which is
> counted as a second thingy.
>
> * "Visionary creative drive" - this appears to be classic management
> speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
> "visionaries", it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
> Boards benefit from having several people who are not "creative" (that
> can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
> giving some oversight for the annual accounts).
>
> Fae
> --
> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Fæ 
On 09/07/2014, Pine W  wrote:
> I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
> explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
> different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
> "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?

+1

Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?

Examples include:

* "Gender diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
people. The "board as a whole" might mean that the count is of people
who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.

* "Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" - this might mean
counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
"Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole" which is
counted as a second thingy.

* "Visionary creative drive" - this appears to be classic management
speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
"visionaries", it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
Boards benefit from having several people who are not "creative" (that
can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
giving some oversight for the annual accounts).

Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W 
I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
"Geographic diversity for the board as a whole" mean as a skill?

Thanks,
Pine


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Alice Wiegand 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> the WMF Board took another round of the exercise to create a Board skills
> grid to get more clarity about what the current needs on the Board are and
> how well they are covered. The Board will discuss the result and the
> implications for the board composition at the Board meeting before
> Wikimania in London.
>
> We are interested in your thoughts and input for this discussion. Please
> take a look at
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_skills_grid_2014
> and share your ideas on the talk page.
>
> Regards,
> Alice.
>
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[Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-08 Thread Alice Wiegand 
Hi all,

the WMF Board took another round of the exercise to create a Board skills
grid to get more clarity about what the current needs on the Board are and
how well they are covered. The Board will discuss the result and the
implications for the board composition at the Board meeting before
Wikimania in London.

We are interested in your thoughts and input for this discussion. Please
take a look at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_skills_grid_2014
and share your ideas on the talk page.

Regards,
Alice.


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