Re: [Wikimedia-l] an observation on economic biases in Wikipedia

2018-05-12 Thread James Salsman 
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:42 PM, Dennis During  wrote:
>
> At the level of generalization of the cited statement in the WP article, it
> is pretty much impossible to approach objectivity in economics articles.

Dennis, for what reason(s) do you believe that? The statement is
easily corrected, but in the form it's existed since it was inserted,
it's easy to show how false it is. I would also like to know your
thoughts on these two stories:

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-paying-ireland-16-billion-dollars-back-taxes-2018-4

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/may/09/fuck-off-google-the-berlin-neighbourhood-fighting-off-a-tech-giant-kreuzberg

> I doubt that an instance of bias should lead us to include

I was not proposing to include the video in the article. That video
wouldn't really counter the magnitude of the damage bias from the
still barely glowing embers of objectivist-influenced austerian
trickle-down economics have done to society through their prevalence
in Wikipedia, but perhaps sources such as these could:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/16/free-community-college-california_n_6474940.html

https://www.treasury.gov/connect/blog/Documents/20121212_Economics%20of%20Higher%20Ed_vFINAL.pdf

https://www.docdroid.net/epSjOI2/peracchi2006.pdf

https://www.docdroid.net/joXd2MZ/heckman2006.pdf

Best regards,
Jim

> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:44 PM, James Salsman  wrote:
>
>> The more I survey different language wikipedias, the more I am
>> convinced an effort at the chapters level is needed to address this
>> problem:
>>
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/
>> 2018-April/006256.html
>>
>> It occurred to me that this Max Roser video might help:
>>
>> A Selfish Argument for Making the World a Better Place – Egoistic Altruism
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvskMHn0sqQ
>>
>> I hope in particular that objectivists and former objectivists would
>> share their thoughts on it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jim
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] an observation on economic biases in Wikipedia

2018-05-08 Thread Dennis During 
At the level of generalization of the cited statement in the WP article, it
is pretty much impossible to approach objectivity in economics articles.  I
doubt that an instance of bias should lead us to include the kind of
unscientific economics that we happen to find agreeable.  I specifically
refer to the kind of Tinkerbell economics in the YouTube video.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 1:44 PM, James Salsman  wrote:

> The more I survey different language wikipedias, the more I am
> convinced an effort at the chapters level is needed to address this
> problem:
>
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/
> 2018-April/006256.html
>
> It occurred to me that this Max Roser video might help:
>
> A Selfish Argument for Making the World a Better Place – Egoistic Altruism
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvskMHn0sqQ
>
> I hope in particular that objectivists and former objectivists would
> share their thoughts on it.
>
> Best regards,
> Jim
>
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[Wikimedia-l] an observation on economic biases in Wikipedia

2018-05-08 Thread James Salsman 
The more I survey different language wikipedias, the more I am
convinced an effort at the chapters level is needed to address this
problem:

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2018-April/006256.html

It occurred to me that this Max Roser video might help:

A Selfish Argument for Making the World a Better Place – Egoistic Altruism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvskMHn0sqQ

I hope in particular that objectivists and former objectivists would
share their thoughts on it.

Best regards,
Jim

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