Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

2016-01-22 Thread Austin Hair 
And just so everyone's clear, Florence's new subscription has already been
whitelisted.

Austin

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Fæ  wrote:

> Sorry you've had to change email Florence.
>
> (Tangent) Could those who use *Yahoo email addresses* ask their
> friends to check if their emails regularly end up in spam boxes? I
> have found several Yahoo users who write to this list getting marked
> as potential trojans by Google and I only find their emails a month
> later, by accident, if ever.
>
> P.S. this is not a Google conspiracy theory.
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
>
> On 22 January 2016 at 14:41, Florence Devouard 
> wrote:
> > Le 21/01/16 20:05, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit :
> >>
> >> hi Florence,
> >>
> >>
> >> Then I was astonished when I discovered that Dariusz, who has been a
> board
> >>>
> >>> member for over 6 months, was not aware of the existence of the
> Conflict
> >>> of
> >>> Interest Policy, which include a pledge of commitment and an obligation
> >>> to
> >>> disclose potential conflicts of interest. A policy voted by the board
> >>> several years ago and mandatory for all board members. It is apparently
> >>> not
> >>> enforced anymore, even though it is an approved policy and obviously a
> >>> good
> >>> governance practice. This makes me think the board is not operating
> >>> properly anymore on this serious matter.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> just to clarify this issue: I have been signing the COI
> >> pledges/disclosures
> >> over the last 4 years, as the FDC member, and later as a Board member.
> >> Apparently I did not make myself clear that I think it is worthwhile to
> >> consider PUBLIC statements (as proposed in the email I was replying to),
> >> and not statements in general (which we do have). It may have left you
> >> with
> >> a reading that I was unaware of the COI policy as a whole; I apologize
> for
> >> my clumsy phrasing.
> >>
> >> best,
> >>
> >> dariusz
> >
> >
> > My apologies Dariusz; This point was a misunderstanding on my part after
> > reading this msg from you :
> >
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080945.html
> >
> > I am really happy to read your clarification and see that this point is
> in
> > fact not an issue. Good :)
> >
> > I actually stayed in confusion because I commented it, but you never gave
> > any further feedback.
> > But some people warned me my emails got stuck in spambox...
> > I changed my email address for the lists this morning... sent a
> message...
> > and it got stuck in moderation !
> > Hopefully this one will work out...
> >
> >
> > Florence
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>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

2016-01-22 Thread Josh Lim 
Hi Fae,

I’m subscribed to this mailing list using a Yahoo! e-mail address, and the 
problem also happens in reverse: some e-mails end up in my spam folder.  The 
problem is so bad that I’m contemplating switching my subscription to a 
different e-mail address, but hopefully I won’t need to do that for the 
foreseeable future.

Is there anyone else here who’s subscribed using a Yahoo! address and has spam 
problems, either with their or others’ e-mails?

Josh

> Wiadomość napisana przez Fæ  w dniu 23.01.2016, o godz. 
> 01:38:
> 
> Sorry you've had to change email Florence.
> 
> (Tangent) Could those who use *Yahoo email addresses* ask their
> friends to check if their emails regularly end up in spam boxes? I
> have found several Yahoo users who write to this list getting marked
> as potential trojans by Google and I only find their emails a month
> later, by accident, if ever.
> 
> P.S. this is not a Google conspiracy theory.
> 
> Thanks,
> Fae
> 
> On 22 January 2016 at 14:41, Florence Devouard  > wrote:
>> Le 21/01/16 20:05, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit :
>>> 
>>> hi Florence,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Then I was astonished when I discovered that Dariusz, who has been a board
 
 member for over 6 months, was not aware of the existence of the Conflict
 of
 Interest Policy, which include a pledge of commitment and an obligation
 to
 disclose potential conflicts of interest. A policy voted by the board
 several years ago and mandatory for all board members. It is apparently
 not
 enforced anymore, even though it is an approved policy and obviously a
 good
 governance practice. This makes me think the board is not operating
 properly anymore on this serious matter.
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> just to clarify this issue: I have been signing the COI
>>> pledges/disclosures
>>> over the last 4 years, as the FDC member, and later as a Board member.
>>> Apparently I did not make myself clear that I think it is worthwhile to
>>> consider PUBLIC statements (as proposed in the email I was replying to),
>>> and not statements in general (which we do have). It may have left you
>>> with
>>> a reading that I was unaware of the COI policy as a whole; I apologize for
>>> my clumsy phrasing.
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> 
>>> dariusz
>> 
>> 
>> My apologies Dariusz; This point was a misunderstanding on my part after
>> reading this msg from you :
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080945.html
>> 
>> I am really happy to read your clarification and see that this point is in
>> fact not an issue. Good :)
>> 
>> I actually stayed in confusion because I commented it, but you never gave
>> any further feedback.
>> But some people warned me my emails got stuck in spambox...
>> I changed my email address for the lists this morning... sent a message...
>> and it got stuck in moderation !
>> Hopefully this one will work out...
>> 
>> 
>> Florence
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> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI - was Re: [Board-l] Fwd: WMF etc.

2016-01-22 Thread Fæ 
Sorry you've had to change email Florence.

(Tangent) Could those who use *Yahoo email addresses* ask their
friends to check if their emails regularly end up in spam boxes? I
have found several Yahoo users who write to this list getting marked
as potential trojans by Google and I only find their emails a month
later, by accident, if ever.

P.S. this is not a Google conspiracy theory.

Thanks,
Fae

On 22 January 2016 at 14:41, Florence Devouard  wrote:
> Le 21/01/16 20:05, Dariusz Jemielniak a écrit :
>>
>> hi Florence,
>>
>>
>> Then I was astonished when I discovered that Dariusz, who has been a board
>>>
>>> member for over 6 months, was not aware of the existence of the Conflict
>>> of
>>> Interest Policy, which include a pledge of commitment and an obligation
>>> to
>>> disclose potential conflicts of interest. A policy voted by the board
>>> several years ago and mandatory for all board members. It is apparently
>>> not
>>> enforced anymore, even though it is an approved policy and obviously a
>>> good
>>> governance practice. This makes me think the board is not operating
>>> properly anymore on this serious matter.
>>>
>>
>>
>> just to clarify this issue: I have been signing the COI
>> pledges/disclosures
>> over the last 4 years, as the FDC member, and later as a Board member.
>> Apparently I did not make myself clear that I think it is worthwhile to
>> consider PUBLIC statements (as proposed in the email I was replying to),
>> and not statements in general (which we do have). It may have left you
>> with
>> a reading that I was unaware of the COI policy as a whole; I apologize for
>> my clumsy phrasing.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> dariusz
>
>
> My apologies Dariusz; This point was a misunderstanding on my part after
> reading this msg from you :
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080945.html
>
> I am really happy to read your clarification and see that this point is in
> fact not an issue. Good :)
>
> I actually stayed in confusion because I commented it, but you never gave
> any further feedback.
> But some people warned me my emails got stuck in spambox...
> I changed my email address for the lists this morning... sent a message...
> and it got stuck in moderation !
> Hopefully this one will work out...
>
>
> Florence
-- 
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