Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Delirium
It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some 
internal links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the 
link to Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's 
just one of the (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit 
the source of their content.


The English Wikipedia keeps track of such sites here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA_Compliance

-Mark


On 8/3/12 1:44 PM, Rui Correia wrote:

Dear All

I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I don't
see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
is. Is there an agreement in place for this?

Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest
http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest

Best regards,

Rui




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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Mike Dupont
on the copyright page they say that the content is mostly cc-by-sa
http://en.goldenmap.com/stylesheets/terms.php

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote:
 It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some internal
 links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the link to
 Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's just one of the
 (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit the source of their
 content.

 The English Wikipedia keeps track of such sites here:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA_Compliance

 -Mark



 On 8/3/12 1:44 PM, Rui Correia wrote:

 Dear All

 I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
 collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I don't
 see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
 is. Is there an agreement in place for this?

 Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest
 http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest

 Best regards,

 Rui



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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Rui Correia
Thanks Mark and Mike

Mike, well done on finding the About! I looked for it and could not find
it.

But surely saying that Most of the contents are licensed under
CC-BY-SAhttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
is not a licence to copy the entire Wikipedia wholesale, without as much as
a mention thereof?

Is there a mechanism to deal with this sort of thing? Where can I refer it
to for action?

Regards,

Rui

On 3 August 2012 14:23, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote:

 on the copyright page they say that the content is mostly cc-by-sa
 http://en.goldenmap.com/stylesheets/terms.php

 On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote:
  It looks like a direct scrape, even to the extent of having some internal
  links being broken because they didn't update them (e.g. the link to
  Wikimedia Commons at the end of the article). I believe it's just one of
 the
  (many) unauthorized mirrors that don't properly credit the source of
 their
  content.
 
  The English Wikipedia keeps track of such sites here:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CC-BY-SA_Compliance
 
  -Mark
 
 
 
  On 8/3/12 1:44 PM, Rui Correia wrote:
 
  Dear All
 
  I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
  collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I
 don't
  see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
  is. Is there an agreement in place for this?
 
  Look - for example - at this page on the Wildebeest
  http://en.goldenmap.com/Wildebeest
 
  Best regards,
 
  Rui
 
 
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is there an agreement between GoldenMap and the Wikipedia for the use of Wikipedia content?

2012-08-03 Thread Johan Jönsson
2012/8/3 Rui Correia correia@gmail.com:
 Dear All

 I came across a site called Golden Map, which has an encyclopaedic
 collection of articles that are the same as in the Wikipedia, but I don't
 see anywhere any information expalining what the association/ permission
 is. Is there an agreement in place for this?

It could also be pointed out that neither WMF nor consensus on any
particular Wikipedia version can grant anyone permission to use
content from Wikipedia without proper attribution. We who write agree
to make our texts available under certain terms, but we still retain
copyright. And some text, if it has been made available under CC-BY-SA
somewhere else and later incorporated into Wikipedia, might not even
be written by Wikipedians.

If it's not properly licensed and attributed, you'd have had to ask
every single (major) contributor to agree privately.

//Johan Jönsson
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