Re: [Wikimedia-l] MET allows free image download for 390, 000+ works already in the pubic domain

2014-05-22 Thread Andrew Gray
On 21 May 2014 23:58, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 21 May 2014 21:25, Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com wrote:

 Despite what the museum director says in the press release, they are not
 providing images in accord with open access principles as they forbid
 reuse in commercial publications, like school textbooks.

 Well, arguably they are, barely. Green open access in scientific journals
 includes NC licenses. It's far short of being proper free content, as you
 note.

Indeed - Green OA is simply the right to make available for reading
(and usually in fairly constrained circumstances). Direct reuse
doesn't enter into it.

Open access is a very multifaceted term. :-)

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] MET allows free image download for 390, 000+ works already in the pubic domain

2014-05-21 Thread Lane Rasberry
Hello,

Only their photographs of public domain two-dimensional works are
compatible with Wikimedia Commons' upload policy, so that excludes most of
what they are sharing.

The works that they are sharing which are compatible with Wikipedia are
very impressive. I know of no one who is uploading them to Commons as a
collection but I have taken their work as I liked it and shared it.

Despite what the museum director says in the press release, they are not
providing images in accord with open access principles as they forbid
reuse in commercial publications, like school textbooks.

The project is a big deal but still keeps major barriers between itself and
the open educational resource movement.

yours,


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Maria Cruz mc...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Hi,
 anyone knows if this MET initiative[1] is viable to have a reverberation in
 Commons, or if it is already a project in the community?

 I see this is very similar to the British Library donation, on December
 2013[2], that quickly started to spread on to Commons[3].

 Any knowledge about this would be much appreciated!

 Thanks,

 MarĂ­a


 [1] http://metmuseum.org/about-the-museum/press-room/news/2014/oasc-access
 [2]

 http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/digital-scholarship/2013/12/a-million-first-steps.html
 [3]

 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_the_British_Library_Mechanical_Curator_collection
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] MET allows free image download for 390, 000+ works already in the pubic domain

2014-05-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 May 2014 21:25, Lane Rasberry l...@bluerasberry.com wrote:


 Despite what the museum director says in the press release, they are not
 providing images in accord with open access principles as they forbid
 reuse in commercial publications, like school textbooks.



Well, arguably they are, barely. Green open access in scientific journals
includes NC licenses. It's far short of being proper free content, as you
note.


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