Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monobook was optimised for editors, Vector is more balanced between readers and edtors

2013-11-24 Thread User Mono
How are the edit functions in Monobook more prominent than in Vector?

 Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:24:52 +0100
 From: nemow...@gmail.com
 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monobook was optimised for editors, Vector is more 
 balanced between readers and edtors
 
 WereSpielChequers, 22/11/2013 08:03:
  But it would be interesting to see some stats on the relative
  retention and upgrading of editors who use monobook and Vector.
 
 The idea sounds crazy, but yes, why not, let's test this. I believe you 
 can put your thoughts on a Meta-Wiki Research: page, describing the 
 background, the A/B test and the proposed analysis, and then ask the WMF 
 to run it (preferably with the consensus of the target wikis, but it's 
 not usually considered necessary for so-called experimentations).
 
 Nemo
 
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Monobook was optimised for editors, Vector is more balanced between readers and edtors

2013-11-24 Thread Andrew Gray
A/B testing major interface changes is very difficult. (I think we had
this same discussion over VisualEditor).

For example, in order to make the results comparable, you'll have to
update all the help pages  documentation to deal with both styles
(why doesn't my screen look like that?), otherwise one becomes more
difficult to use  will have consequent drop-out rates. You also have
to try and deal with the fact that all readers (and indeed editors)
without accounts will use Vector, and will be immediately confused by
why it looks different once logged in - at which point many will get
frustrated.

A/B testing is good for small things like the login form, where it
works great, but won't always work for everything...

Andrew.

On 22 November 2013 07:24, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
 WereSpielChequers, 22/11/2013 08:03:

 But it would be interesting to see some stats on the relative
 retention and upgrading of editors who use monobook and Vector.


 The idea sounds crazy, but yes, why not, let's test this. I believe you can
 put your thoughts on a Meta-Wiki Research: page, describing the background,
 the A/B test and the proposed analysis, and then ask the WMF to run it
 (preferably with the consensus of the target wikis, but it's not usually
 considered necessary for so-called experimentations).

 Nemo


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