Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
On 8 February 2013 10:22, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: It would be greatly appreciated if you would consider the Walk and Talk Tours patented system in 1999 with regards to information signage relating back to electronic media to obtain information in respect of a site. A brief review of the patent seems to indicate that it doesn't cover anything except for phone calls, but the wording is sufficiently broad that one could construe it to refer to any data sent over a wireless network. Can someone on this list please give an opinion? I suggest you consider it as they requested, file it, and do not reply. I see nothing in this patent that could be considered anything infringed by QRPedia technology that is not long established as open source or irrelevant. My past experience, having worked in mobile technology for some years and been part of managing the international IP for new technology, is that the mobile technology sector lawyers (or more often proto-lawyers) will scour the internet hunting for anything that might get them a decent commission. Speculative letters are cheap to send and as QRPedia gets more press coverage, this sort of contact is likely to become very frequent. This is not professional advice, I am not writing in my capacity in any organization I am affiliated with or was affiliated with, blah, blah, imagine a lengthy disclaimer here... Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
...without the necessity of going through unnecessary legal fees in using the patented concept without the consent of... - Is that a copyvio? * See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll 2013/2/8, Fae faewik+comm...@gmail.com: On 8 February 2013 10:22, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: It would be greatly appreciated if you would consider the Walk and Talk Tours patented system in 1999 with regards to information signage relating back to electronic media to obtain information in respect of a site. A brief review of the patent seems to indicate that it doesn't cover anything except for phone calls, but the wording is sufficiently broad that one could construe it to refer to any data sent over a wireless network. Can someone on this list please give an opinion? I suggest you consider it as they requested, file it, and do not reply. I see nothing in this patent that could be considered anything infringed by QRPedia technology that is not long established as open source or irrelevant. My past experience, having worked in mobile technology for some years and been part of managing the international IP for new technology, is that the mobile technology sector lawyers (or more often proto-lawyers) will scour the internet hunting for anything that might get them a decent commission. Speculative letters are cheap to send and as QRPedia gets more press coverage, this sort of contact is likely to become very frequent. This is not professional advice, I am not writing in my capacity in any organization I am affiliated with or was affiliated with, blah, blah, imagine a lengthy disclaimer here... Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
I don't see this as an actual patent troll: the people in question actually use the technology that they patented for self-guided walking tours: the tourist calls the number related to the specific site, and hears information about it. I think they were just a bit overoptimistic about what was patentable, and/or how broad the coverage given by their their patent was. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: ...without the necessity of going through unnecessary legal fees in using the patented concept without the consent of... - Is that a copyvio? * See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_troll 2013/2/8, Fae faewik+comm...@gmail.com: On 8 February 2013 10:22, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: It would be greatly appreciated if you would consider the Walk and Talk Tours patented system in 1999 with regards to information signage relating back to electronic media to obtain information in respect of a site. A brief review of the patent seems to indicate that it doesn't cover anything except for phone calls, but the wording is sufficiently broad that one could construe it to refer to any data sent over a wireless network. Can someone on this list please give an opinion? I suggest you consider it as they requested, file it, and do not reply. I see nothing in this patent that could be considered anything infringed by QRPedia technology that is not long established as open source or irrelevant. My past experience, having worked in mobile technology for some years and been part of managing the international IP for new technology, is that the mobile technology sector lawyers (or more often proto-lawyers) will scour the internet hunting for anything that might get them a decent commission. Speculative letters are cheap to send and as QRPedia gets more press coverage, this sort of contact is likely to become very frequent. This is not professional advice, I am not writing in my capacity in any organization I am affiliated with or was affiliated with, blah, blah, imagine a lengthy disclaimer here... Thanks, Fae -- fae...@gmail.com http://j.mp/faewm Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
QRpedia is still owned by Roger Bamkin I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRpedia The projects code appears to be open source. What does this mean for long term stability? How is the site licensed? What authority do the volunteers / cities putting these up involved have over its functioning? -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
On 8 February 2013 17:53, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: QRpedia is still owned by Roger Bamkin I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRpedia The projects code appears to be open source. What does this mean for long term stability? How is the site licensed? What authority do the volunteers / cities putting these up involved have over its functioning? Hi James, See discussions at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Water_cooler#QR_codes (and the later thread on the same page), lots of information and discussion there, and the Water Cooler will stay up to date as events progress. I welcome further questions that have not already been raised to be added there, I find it a handy place to reference. As it happens, the UK Board is reviewing the negotiation tomorrow and there may be an announcement to make then. Thanks, Fae -- Ashley Van Haeften (Fae) f...@wikimedia.org.uk Wikimedia UK Trustee http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Guide to email tags: http://j.mp/mfae ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Patent claim relating to QRpedia
Am 08.02.2013 18:53, schrieb James Heilman: QRpedia is still owned by Roger Bamkin I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRpedia The projects code appears to be open source. It is. You need to fiddle through it and find the right QR library which is not included, though. What does this mean for long term stability? How is the site licensed? What authority do the volunteers / cities putting these up involved have over its functioning? I managed to set up my own instance and got it working. So we have a stand-by system. /Manuel -- Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
