Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W
I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
Geographic diversity for the board as a whole mean as a skill?

Thanks,
Pine


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Alice Wiegand awieg...@wikimedia.org
wrote:

 Hi all,

 the WMF Board took another round of the exercise to create a Board skills
 grid to get more clarity about what the current needs on the Board are and
 how well they are covered. The Board will discuss the result and the
 implications for the board composition at the Board meeting before
 Wikimania in London.

 We are interested in your thoughts and input for this discussion. Please
 take a look at

 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMF_Board_Governance_Committee/Board_skills_grid_2014
 and share your ideas on the talk page.

 Regards,
 Alice.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread
On 09/07/2014, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
 explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
 different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
 Geographic diversity for the board as a whole mean as a skill?

+1

Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?

Examples include:

* Gender diversity for the board as a whole - this might mean
counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
people. The board as a whole might mean that the count is of people
who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.

* Geographic diversity for the board as a whole - this might mean
counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole which is
counted as a second thingy.

* Visionary creative drive - this appears to be classic management
speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
visionaries, it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
Boards benefit from having several people who are not creative (that
can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
giving some oversight for the annual accounts).

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W
I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
needs people with management expertise.

Pine


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 09/07/2014, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
  I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can someone
  explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what the
  different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
  Geographic diversity for the board as a whole mean as a skill?

 +1

 Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?

 Examples include:

 * Gender diversity for the board as a whole - this might mean
 counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
 maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
 people. The board as a whole might mean that the count is of people
 who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.

 * Geographic diversity for the board as a whole - this might mean
 counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
 many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
 travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
 Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole which is
 counted as a second thingy.

 * Visionary creative drive - this appears to be classic management
 speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
 visionaries, it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
 Boards benefit from having several people who are not creative (that
 can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
 giving some oversight for the annual accounts).

 Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pierre-Selim
Thank you Alice for sharing this with the community.


2014-07-09 9:56 GMT+02:00 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com:

 I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
 needs people with management expertise.

 Pine


 On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 09/07/2014, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
   I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can
 someone
   explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what
 the
   different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what does
   Geographic diversity for the board as a whole mean as a skill?
 
  +1
 
  Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?
 
  Examples include:
 
  * Gender diversity for the board as a whole - this might mean
  counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
  maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
  people. The board as a whole might mean that the count is of people
  who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.
 
  * Geographic diversity for the board as a whole - this might mean
  counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
  many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
  travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
  Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole which is
  counted as a second thingy.
 
  * Visionary creative drive - this appears to be classic management
  speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
  visionaries, it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
  Boards benefit from having several people who are not creative (that
  can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
  giving some oversight for the annual accounts).
 
  Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Board skill grid 2014

2014-07-09 Thread Pine W
Yes thank you for sharing, and I apologize if I sound short-tempered, but
this is the kind of report I am used to reading from consultants and I lost
patience with them a long time ago. (:

Pine


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Pierre-Selim pierre-se...@huard.info
wrote:

 Thank you Alice for sharing this with the community.


 2014-07-09 9:56 GMT+02:00 Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com:

  I largely agree, and I also think this chart shows that the Board badly
  needs people with management expertise.
 
  Pine
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On 09/07/2014, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote:
I find the terminology and scoring here to be pretty obscure. Can
  someone
explain in detail what the definitions of each criterion are and what
  the
different scores mean applied to each criterion? For example, what
 does
Geographic diversity for the board as a whole mean as a skill?
  
   +1
  
   Can it be in plain English please, rather than weird jargon?
  
   Examples include:
  
   * Gender diversity for the board as a whole - this might mean
   counting how many women are on the board (so why not say that?), or
   maybe it includes other dimensions, like a count of LGBT identifying
   people. The board as a whole might mean that the count is of people
   who are not actually board members, it is very unclear.
  
   * Geographic diversity for the board as a whole - this might mean
   counting the number of countries where board members reside, or how
   many different countries they have resided in, or how much they
   travel, or several other things. It may or may not be a part of
   Ethnic / multi-lingual diversity for the board as a whole which is
   counted as a second thingy.
  
   * Visionary creative drive - this appears to be classic management
   speak rather than English. I hope that the board has very few
   visionaries, it sounds like having several might become disruptive.
   Boards benefit from having several people who are not creative (that
   can be a good thing when you want basic stuff actually done, like
   giving some oversight for the annual accounts).
  
   Fae
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