On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:12:08 +0200, Ziko van Dijk wrote:
Hello,
I repeat my proposal that every wiki-website (project) should
install a (international) contact person, and these contact persons
should be following a mailing list with specified information for
them. They inform the
Hello,
I repeat my proposal that every wiki-website (project) should
install a (international) contact person, and these contact persons
should be following a mailing list with specified information for
them. They inform the wiki-website-community about important issues on
the village pump or via
Thank you for the links, Tilman!
2012/8/4 Tilman Bayer tba...@wikimedia.org:
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English
There's a very strong selection bias on this list towards those that can read
English, and those that have the time to follow very long, convoluted
discussions. ;-) I think Ziko's talking more about a low-traffic list with key
issues/points concisely described, which is completely different
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
Hi,
In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top contributors, in an effort to
Oh my dear beloved Steven, It VERY much is.
The editors who wrote the biggest number of articles is Portuguese (Nuno
Tavares), the one who run pretty much all the bots in pt wiki and is also
Adm and crat is also portuguese (Alchimista aka André Barbosa), the one who
created and put foward the
John, when those meetings happened, what they said was we want to meet
people from Brasil and when asked who they wanted to meet, the answer was
anyone, doesn't matter how long you contribute or how much, we only want
to talk with the Brazilian community,so no, none of those meetings were
calls
Hire someone from the local Wikipedia community to do it. This can be
integrated into the proposed language community and cultural translation
WMF fellow's job description.
MediaWiki feature decisions are gruesome chores. In small language project
communities the active editors typically don't
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
nemow...@gmail.com wrote:
Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 20:27:
In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hkwrote:
Hire someone from the local Wikipedia community to do it.
Easily said, but... which local community? All 280ish of them? Wait,
that's just languages we're up to nearly 700 sites now, aren't we? :)
pb
phoebe ayers, 30/07/2012 18:52:
I'm not sure if in the long term focusing on specific language
communities and recruiting fellows is the sustainable answer for the
WMF -- actually I'm pretty sure it isn't -- but I also don't think it
can hurt to try and build a deep (and as Amir notes
Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 20:27:
In the 2012-13 WMF plan document I saw an interesting thing:
We’ve hosted key community stakeholders such as English Wikipedia’s
ArbCom and Portuguese Wikipedia’s top contributors, in an effort to
better understand and respond to issues they're facing. (page
Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 21:35:
I'm not sure I like the idea of key community stakeholders
Well, this sends us back to Tom Morris' classic post:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-February/118759.html
But that's a different topic.
Is it really only a problem of
2012/7/29 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com:
Amir E. Aharoni, 29/07/2012 21:35:
I'm not sure I like the idea of key community stakeholders
Well, this sends us back to Tom Morris' classic post:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-February/118759.html
But that's a
Is it really only a problem of language?
Why should the WMF meet ArbCom members, for instance? It doesn't seem
a suitable way to understand a community. I'm not saying that there
are easy alternatives of course. :-)
Nemo
For instance, Russian Wikipedia community is strongly divided for
already
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Amir E. Aharoni
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
I don't know how did the meeting with the Portuguese Wikipedians go; I
suppose that it was good. I don't remember that I read anything about
it in blogs or mailing lists, but I may have missed it. Maybe what
Thomas Dalton, 29/07/2012 23:01:
On 29 July 2012 21:52, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
Our blog post reporting back on the trip to Brazil is here, in English and
Portuguese: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/03/22/brazil-meetups-march/
That reads like it was a meeting with a
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
That reads like it was a meeting with a selection of Brazilian
Wikipedians. That does not equate with Portuguese Wikipedia’s top
contributors. I'm sure some of Portuguese Wikipedia’s top
contributors are Brazilian,
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
While I may not be involved in the Portuguese Wikipedia, I do have a
masters degree in mathematics, so I can reliably inform you that
majority is not the same as all.
The WMF tends to employ smart people, so I
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
On 29 July 2012 22:33, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
I can see how you would think this if you're not involved with these
communities, but a clear majority of the active editors on Portuguese
On 29 July 2012 22:48, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
While I may not be involved in the Portuguese Wikipedia, I do have a
masters degree in mathematics, so I can reliably inform you that
majority is
On 29 July 2012 22:57, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
Can your masters degree in mathematics point out where in Wikimedia's
statement it said all or implied anything other than having met some of
Portuguese Wikipedia's top contributors? Not sure what the big deal is.
The word all actually
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
This is not a mole hill. It is the WMF (I assume intentionally, since
you must have known better) misleading people about its activities.
You had a particular message you wanted to give, so you described the
activity
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
On 29 July 2012 22:57, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
Can your masters degree in mathematics point out where in Wikimedia's
statement it said all or implied anything other than having met some of
Portuguese
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote:
On 29 July 2012 22:48, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
While I may not be involved in the Portuguese Wikipedia, I do
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 July 2012 22:57, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote:
Can your masters degree in mathematics point out where in Wikimedia's
statement it said all or implied anything other than having met some of
Portuguese
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