Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-18 Thread Craig Franklin
Having looked closely at our statement of purpose, read Google's position on the matter, and read the following discussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians'_notice_board #Mandatory_internet_censorship ), I think that it's well within the chapter's role to put out a

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-16 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Dec-16 15:45:51 +1100, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com wrote: No doubt press commentary is worth a look ( see http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/net-censorship-move-a-smokescreen-expert-20091216-kw7d.html When I voted, the associated poll was 90% against. The timing

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-16 Thread Andrew
My own position is very similar to Liam's - personally opposed to the filter as a free-thinking Australian citizen who believes it should be up to parents what their kids see and the government has no place telling adults what they can or can not see. Additionally I think it could have speed

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
...I guess this topic is bound to come up - so no harm in a thread or two, I reckon No doubt press commentary is worth a look ( see http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/net-censorship-move-a-smokescreen-expert-20091216-kw7d.html) for example. Dealing, as this proposal does, with

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
ps. This section from the 'FAQ' is probably relavent too; In consultation with owners of popular overseas sites, *consideration is being given to exempt high traffic sites* from having their material included on the RC Content list if they implement arrangements to either take down identified

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
pps. because, in my view, wiki's are better for brainstorming and consensus building than mailing lists... see http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/ISP_Filtering too :-) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM, private musings thepmacco...@gmail.comwrote: ps. This section from the 'FAQ' is probably relavent

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Halasz
I don't see this exception applying, as I don't see WMF (or the community) agreeing to take down this sort of material, as it has not in the past. I refer to the English Wikipedia article Virgin Killer (a mid-1970s record album from German heavy metal band the Scorpion), which has not been taken

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew
Matt, thanks - good question. As yet, no it doesn't have an official position - I have forwarded this to the committee list so one can be reached promptly. Cheers Andrew On 16/12/2009, Matt inbgn mattin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does the chapter have a position on this

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - Measures to improve safety of the internet for families

2009-12-15 Thread Liam Wyatt
Yes, indeed this is a good question and an important issue. On a personal basis I am completely opposed to the filter and I imagine most Wikimedians in Australia are. However, I would caution that the Chapter cannot be seen in word or deed to be responsible for Wikipedia. This was a problem faced