Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-18 Thread Craig Franklin
s.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sent: Wednesday, 16 December 2009 10:44 PM To: Wikimedia-au Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families" My own position is very similar to Liam&#

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-16 Thread Andrew
My own position is very similar to Liam's - personally opposed to the filter as a free-thinking Australian citizen who believes it should be up to parents what their kids see and the government has no place telling adults what they can or can not see. Additionally I think it could have speed effect

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-16 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Dec-16 15:45:51 +1100, private musings wrote: >No doubt press commentary is worth a look ( see >http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/net-censorship-move-a-smokescreen-expert-20091216-kw7d.html When I voted, the associated poll was >>90% against. The timing of the legislation

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Matt inbgn
Liam, All good points, especially about ensuring that we do not, inadvertently or otherwise, give the appearance of having any control whatsover with the operation of Wikipedia and Commons. I would argue that "Free" in "Free Cultural Works" includes "freely accessible" and there is a legitimate r

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Liam Wyatt
Yes, indeed this is a good question and an important issue. On a personal basis I am completely opposed to the filter and I imagine most Wikimedians in Australia are. However, I would caution that the Chapter cannot be seen in word or deed to be "responsible for" Wikipedia. This was a problem faced

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Andrew
Matt, thanks - good question. As yet, no it doesn't have an official position - I have forwarded this to the committee list so one can be reached promptly. Cheers Andrew On 16/12/2009, Matt inbgn wrote: > Hi all, > > Does the chapter have a position on this > proposal

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Halasz
I don't see this exception applying, as I don't see WMF (or the community) agreeing to take down this sort of material, as it has not in the past. I refer to the English Wikipedia article "Virgin Killer" (a mid-1970s record album from German heavy metal band the Scorpion), which has not been taken

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
pps. because, in my view, wiki's are better for brainstorming and consensus building than mailing lists... see http://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/ISP_Filtering too :-) On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:51 PM, private musings wrote: > ps. This section from the 'FAQ' is probably relavent too; > "In consultation

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
ps. This section from the 'FAQ' is probably relavent too; "In consultation with owners of popular overseas sites, *consideration is being given to exempt high traffic sites* from having their material included on the RC Content list if they implement arrangements to either take down identified RC-r

Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Conroy - "Measures to improve safety of the internet for families"

2009-12-15 Thread private musings
...I guess this topic is bound to come up - so no harm in a thread or two, I reckon No doubt press commentary is worth a look ( see http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/net-censorship-move-a-smokescreen-expert-20091216-kw7d.html) for example. Dealing, as this proposal does, with sol