Re: [Wikimediaau-l] looking for edit training?

2013-08-28 Thread K. Peachey
>From my makling list account this.


On Thursday, August 29, 2013, Kerry Raymond wrote::

> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Tony1/Proposed_membership_table
>
> ** **
>
> and we could certainly do that, but it would need some contact details
> though, which people may or may not be confident about putting on a public
> page.
>
>
> Special:emailuser might work, but wmAu wiki is a bit confines membership
wise I guess

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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] looking for edit training?

2013-08-28 Thread Leigh Blackall
Yes, brokering is a great way to do it.


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Kerry Raymond wrote:

>  Thanks, Leigh, for indicating your willingness to support this.
>
> ** **
>
> Previously Tony and Sam suggested that we might create a page that listed
> people’s skills and availabilities:
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Tony1/Proposed_membership_table
>
> ** **
>
> and we could certainly do that, but it would need some contact details
> though, which people may or may not be confident about putting on a public
> page.
>
> ** **
>
> For that reason and, also, that people may be hesitant about approaching
> people on a list or there maybe nobody in their area on list, I think there
> is still merit in having a WMAU “broker” to try to match up needs with the
> appropriate volunteers.
>
> ** **
>
> My immediate desire is to ensure we are doing what we can for the training
> needs of any members, but after that I think we certainly should move to
> making this offer more widely available (and hope we aren’t over-run with
> demand) by putting it somewhere highly visible on our website “Want to know
> more about WP? Want to learn to edit WP? Contact us!”
>
> ** **
>
> Kerry
>
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> *From:* Leigh Blackall [mailto:leighblack...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 29 August 2013 1:18 PM
> *To:* Kerry Raymond; Wikimedia Australia Chapter
> *Cc:* members members
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] looking for edit training?
>
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>
> Hi Kerry, this is the sort of thing I used to think would be of benefit to
> organisations.. like La Trobe University. As I play the inside agent,
> trying to generate interest in engaging the Wikimedia projects, to be able
> to follow up with somewhat on-call one to one or one to few, semi
> spontaneous help and support, would be excellent. I'm sure it would be
> rarely used - xenophobia and all, but the offer itself is massive, when
> compared to the costly and inflexible support people get for centrally
> supported systems.
>
> ** **
>
> Naturally, I'd put my name into the ring for a Melbourne/Yarra Ranges
> network of support people, and I suppose nothing need to change if that
> network was simply listed on say, a WMAu page, and feedback and references
> were collected on their profile, so people could look through and select
> who to contact for possible support... 
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Kerry Raymond 
> wrote:
>
> Although I know many of our WMAU members are experienced Wikipedia
> editors, I am aware that we do have some members who are not and would
> welcome some opportunity to learn more about it. 
>
>  
>
> We aren’t in a position to run large group formal training in most cities
> (for a variety of reasons) but it’s possible to do one-on-one informal
> training so long as there is a volunteer available in your area.
>
>  
>
> So, if you are someone who would like to get some one-on-one training,
> please contact me and let me know what area you are in. I will then call
> for volunteers for that area to assist and, if successful, put you in touch
> to make a mutually convenient arrangement to get together.
>
>  
>
> One comment. Obviously it’s up to the individuals to make whatever
> arrangements they are comfortable with, but I must point out that there are
> risks associated with meeting with a stranger in a private setting (this is
> always a consideration when conducting interviews in research projects). It
> might be preferable to meet in a library or other public place in the first
> instance.
>
>  
>
> Kerry
>
>  
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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] looking for edit training?

2013-08-28 Thread Kerry Raymond
Thanks, Leigh, for indicating your willingness to support this.

 

Previously Tony and Sam suggested that we might create a page that listed
people's skills and availabilities:

 

http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Tony1/Proposed_membership_table

 

and we could certainly do that, but it would need some contact details
though, which people may or may not be confident about putting on a public
page.

 

For that reason and, also, that people may be hesitant about approaching
people on a list or there maybe nobody in their area on list, I think there
is still merit in having a WMAU "broker" to try to match up needs with the
appropriate volunteers.

 

My immediate desire is to ensure we are doing what we can for the training
needs of any members, but after that I think we certainly should move to
making this offer more widely available (and hope we aren't over-run with
demand) by putting it somewhere highly visible on our website "Want to know
more about WP? Want to learn to edit WP? Contact us!"

 

Kerry

 

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From: Leigh Blackall [mailto:leighblack...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2013 1:18 PM
To: Kerry Raymond; Wikimedia Australia Chapter
Cc: members members
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaau-l] looking for edit training?

 

Hi Kerry, this is the sort of thing I used to think would be of benefit to
organisations.. like La Trobe University. As I play the inside agent, trying
to generate interest in engaging the Wikimedia projects, to be able to
follow up with somewhat on-call one to one or one to few, semi spontaneous
help and support, would be excellent. I'm sure it would be rarely used -
xenophobia and all, but the offer itself is massive, when compared to the
costly and inflexible support people get for centrally supported systems.

 

Naturally, I'd put my name into the ring for a Melbourne/Yarra Ranges
network of support people, and I suppose nothing need to change if that
network was simply listed on say, a WMAu page, and feedback and references
were collected on their profile, so people could look through and select who
to contact for possible support... 

 

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Kerry Raymond 
wrote:

Although I know many of our WMAU members are experienced Wikipedia editors,
I am aware that we do have some members who are not and would welcome some
opportunity to learn more about it. 

 

We aren't in a position to run large group formal training in most cities
(for a variety of reasons) but it's possible to do one-on-one informal
training so long as there is a volunteer available in your area.

 

So, if you are someone who would like to get some one-on-one training,
please contact me and let me know what area you are in. I will then call for
volunteers for that area to assist and, if successful, put you in touch to
make a mutually convenient arrangement to get together.

 

One comment. Obviously it's up to the individuals to make whatever
arrangements they are comfortable with, but I must point out that there are
risks associated with meeting with a stranger in a private setting (this is
always a consideration when conducting interviews in research projects). It
might be preferable to meet in a library or other public place in the first
instance.

 

Kerry

 

 

 


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Re: [Wikimediaau-l] looking for edit training?

2013-08-28 Thread Leigh Blackall
Hi Kerry, this is the sort of thing I used to think would be of benefit to
organisations.. like La Trobe University. As I play the inside agent,
trying to generate interest in engaging the Wikimedia projects, to be able
to follow up with somewhat on-call one to one or one to few, semi
spontaneous help and support, would be excellent. I'm sure it would be
rarely used - xenophobia and all, but the offer itself is massive, when
compared to the costly and inflexible support people get for centrally
supported systems.

Naturally, I'd put my name into the ring for a Melbourne/Yarra Ranges
network of support people, and I suppose nothing need to change if that
network was simply listed on say, a WMAu page, and feedback and references
were collected on their profile, so people could look through and select
who to contact for possible support...


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Kerry Raymond wrote:

>  Although I know many of our WMAU members are experienced Wikipedia
> editors, I am aware that we do have some members who are not and would
> welcome some opportunity to learn more about it. 
>
> ** **
>
> We aren’t in a position to run large group formal training in most cities
> (for a variety of reasons) but it’s possible to do one-on-one informal
> training so long as there is a volunteer available in your area.
>
> ** **
>
> So, if you are someone who would like to get some one-on-one training,
> please contact me and let me know what area you are in. I will then call
> for volunteers for that area to assist and, if successful, put you in touch
> to make a mutually convenient arrangement to get together.
>
> ** **
>
> One comment. Obviously it’s up to the individuals to make whatever
> arrangements they are comfortable with, but I must point out that there are
> risks associated with meeting with a stranger in a private setting (this is
> always a consideration when conducting interviews in research projects). It
> might be preferable to meet in a library or other public place in the first
> instance.
>
> ** **
>
> Kerry
>
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